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    I agree the leadership structure is slow and lacking and it has been a problem for many years, nowadays though it does seem more spread out compared to what it was under 8Freak8 and ---MAD--- which is good. The problem nowadays does seem that once a link is missing, everything grinds to a halt - although I have been told this is pretty much unavoidable.

    I do not agree on the management positions though as I think they are fine as it stands, Habbox's upper management has never been better in my eyes and I have been here since 8Freak8. This general management we have now and the general management just gone [nvrspk] have done a good job.
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    I'm not up for this character assassination but I don't really see anyone better to replace Matt anyway.

    I think there is definitely issues in the bureaucracy over everything, for example you had to start up a discussion between the general managers to decide whether to ban foreign languages in HxHD. In total the thread had 115 replies over such a trivial issue, in reality one general manager should of replied with a snap decision and bam, thread over. There is no need to have a debate over something so ridiculous and this has been going on for well over a year now, the smallest of issues arises in Habbox Feedback and there's a general management discussion over it, sometimes with no clear outcome. Another example of this was the whole palaver with filtering certain websites which also accumlated 142 replies over yet another trivial issue.

    My advice to Matt is to let people do their own thing, allow department managers to do whatever they like as they know best and it speeds up the process. But when an issue comes up in Habbox Feedback, come up with a clear decision on your own and show some leadership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    I'm not up for this character assassination but I don't really see anyone better to replace Matt anyway.

    I think there is definitely issues in the bureaucracy over everything, for example you had to start up a discussion between the general managers to decide whether to ban foreign languages in HxHD. In total the thread had 115 replies over such a trivial issue, in reality one general manager should of replied with a snap decision and bam, thread over. There is no need to have a debate over something so ridiculous and this has been going on for well over a year now, the smallest of issues arises in Habbox Feedback and there's a general management discussion over it, sometimes with no clear outcome. Another example of this was the whole palaver with filtering certain websites which also accumlated 142 replies over yet another trivial issue.

    My advice to Matt is to let people do their own thing, allow department managers to do whatever they like as they know best and it speeds up the process. But when an issue comes up in Habbox Feedback, come up with a clear decision on your own and show some leadership.
    In regards to the HxHD issue I don't personally think it's down to Matt to make a snap decision, as far as I'm aware the Community AGM didn't post in that thread once - surely it would be their responsibility to sort this? I like Roxy very much but I think it'd be good to see her making decisions.

    In regards to the filtering certain sites thing, that was just a mere misunderstanding, Matt couldn't make a snap decision because we both had a memory which we couldn't quite recall - a snap decision couldn't be made until we figured out what that was and as soon as we realised it it was sorted instantly.
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    Yeah i agree with the above, i think matt has been doing a good job. I think sometimes alot of the decisions are behind the scenes and things like that. The thing i like about Matt is that he seems more involved with the community then mainly any of the other Gm's, which i think attracts people to the site more. I mean if you are friends with someone who manages a site, chances are you are going to visit the site regularly.

    I think that this team if AGM's and GM is the best we've had for a long while. I remember when i was staff and management back in 2008, i rarely seemed to speak to the general management, only when i wanted something or something concerning the job. All ideas people came up with kept getting knocked back and they wouldn't elaborate on such ideas. With Matt as GM i feel i have more freedom as part of RV management, i've come up with plenty ideas that both me and Roxy have discussed, changed and then we've actually got them implemented (One coming very soon infact )

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

    My opinion is that i think Matt is doing a great job so far. Garion is great at controlling the staff, Roxy is really good at organising events and she listens to you and Joe is just amazing at what he does in content. I think it's a really great team and it'll be a sad day when any of them leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oli View Post
    In regards to the HxHD issue I don't personally think it's down to Matt to make a snap decision, as far as I'm aware the Community AGM didn't post in that thread once - surely it would be their responsibility to sort this? I like Roxy very much but I think it'd be good to see her making decisions.

    In regards to the filtering certain sites thing, that was just a mere misunderstanding, Matt couldn't make a snap decision because we both had a memory which we couldn't quite recall - a snap decision couldn't be made until we figured out what that was and as soon as we realised it it was sorted instantly.
    Yeah my post was just about the whole communication and management structure in general it wasn't a dig at Matt. If that's the case with the HxHD then yeah the Community AGM should of just posted and drew a line under it. It seems the filtering thing was just a one-off but anyway, Nvrspk always showed authority and his opinion was always quite clear. He usually posted his opinion, allowed you to respond and then he'd reply again. After that he'd just end it or lock the thread and you knew then, Nvrspk wasn't going to change his mind and move on. The current management just seem to debate things forever in pointless discussions which makes things unclear and lack authority at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    Yeah my post was just about the whole communication and management structure in general it wasn't a dig at Matt. If that's the case with the HxHD then yeah the Community AGM should of just posted and drew a line under it. It seems the filtering thing was just a one-off but anyway, Nvrspk always showed authority and his opinion was always quite clear. He usually posted his opinion, allowed you to respond and then he'd reply again. After that he'd just end it or lock the thread and you knew then, Nvrspk wasn't going to change his mind and move on. The current management just seem to debate things forever in pointless discussions which makes things unclear and lack authority at times.
    I agree really, and I'm the same - although saying that when I did state my answer and close a thread I got slated I think generally we have a very strong Management team at Habbox, I think one of the weaknesses of current General (and Forum actually) Management is that we can be too soft with member ideas, nvrspk4 and 8Freak8 were a lot more selective and stubborn, and whilst it sounds like this is a better way, being too soft has it's consequences.

    I think the best thing about Matt as GM is his ideas, he is a very intelligent bloke who has good visions for the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oli View Post
    I agree really, and I'm the same - although saying that when I did state my answer and close a thread I got slated I think generally we have a very strong Management team at Habbox, I think one of the weaknesses of current General (and Forum actually) Management is that we can be too soft with member ideas, nvrspk4 and 8Freak8 were a lot more selective and stubborn, and whilst it sounds like this is a better way, being too soft has it's consequences.

    I think the best thing about Matt as GM is his ideas, he is a very intelligent bloke who has good visions for the future.
    No Oli honestly, the forums far better like now where you take into account the ideas and suggestions of members.

    Please do not go back to what it used to be like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    No Oli honestly, the forums far better like now where you take into account the ideas and suggestions of members.

    Please do not go back to what it used to be like.
    Oh I'm not saying let's go back to the dictatorship, hell no - without member feedback I'd be nowhere, I just think that sometimes the bad ideas aren't said no to quick enough
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    To be fair to Matt, I would NEVER pick any of the other upper management member's to take him over straight away. He does a good job in my opinion - although I think he does need to learn how to tell members decisions etc and be more 'up front' in giving his opinions.

    Also, I cannot believe I am saying this, however I actually PREFERRED habbox when members were not given as strong input as they are now. As to be honest, most the members who give the thoughts, couldn't run the site if they tried, and I know I probably couldn't. I think getting the balance between listening to member's and the actual decision's is essential. I personally believe that the Sunday Update thing is not a brilliant idea anymore. I think 'fortnightly' updates would be a FAR better idea - I always seem to think management are forced in to making random updates that don't really need to be made. For example when the FAQ is changed - a one word change isn't exactly needed (especially to be made public!) However at the same time, I do strongly believe that having updates at a set time is brilliant as a lot of members look forward to seeing what the updates are - just I think they are done slightly too often

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    What a load of old tosh. This thread has been created on heresay when quite frankly the OP is not actually in any position to judge the facts because he doesn't know them anymore than I do - sounds like a backroom attempt at a A coup d'état. Under Matt there has been more changes than I can remember. More lenient rules and lifting the filter.
    More generous avatar and signature sizes. Changes in user ranks so new members start off with 'gold' status and more benefits. Removal of old infractions etc. If there is 'tension' in the managerial ranks then they should all to look to themselves to see perhaps what they are doing wrong themselves, examine whether they keep to their own roles and respect others roles and it and come together as a team. Matt is very dedicated and intelligent enough to run this Forum. Don't forget he has Jin to liaise with and that is not that easy this time of year.
    He also has two able AGMs to assist him. As far as I am concerned - well done Matt! ove3:
    First and last time probably, I agree. As much as I love Garion and have no doubt he could step in as GM with immediate effect I think Matt is actually good for Habbox. I think there are other management positions that should be reviewed. I think there have been some really positive changes and although I don't come on as much any more the management team seem together(ish). I think this is just people trying to push him out, trying to cause some controversy and aren't in any position to make these judgements. Matt isn't the best GM Habbox has ever had but he's been in the job for two months and has done a better job than Sammeth. and Nvrspk4 combined.

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