habbox groups

[Blinger$]

Never made a complaint about Oli, just said a AFM would be beneficial to Habbox :S

its clear you are targetting oli though.

[Tintinnabulate]

its clear you are targetting oli though.

No, I am targeting Yoshi actually as he rarely posts. However I think we both know you love targeting me .

[myke]

saurav, you said about an inactive features manager?

brandon works his ass off lol, he does loads of stuff... just because you dont see it, doesnt mean it's not happening.

[Tintinnabulate]

saurav, you said about an inactive features manager?

brandon works his ass off lol, he does loads of stuff... just because you dont see it, doesnt mean it's not happening.

Read my post above Theres two features managers .

[Inseriousity.]

Giving someone an assistant who doesn't want one will just cause unneccessary friction and may have a negative impact on the forum. Personally, I just think Oli has a clear vision of how he wants things to go and having an assistant would possibly change that. Martin would be a good AFM but he's also news manager so I reckon he should let someone else have a go

As for the groups, I'm not really a fan of them. Any promotion will probably just the delaying the inevitable, which is that they just don't get used often enough.

edit: Yoshi has done my vip/rep requests since I started (I didnt pm brandon for some reason ) and he's always done them really fast and when he hasnt, theres normally a good reason for it.

[Hecktix]

In all honesty, I think there's a lot said here which you lot don't really have a clue about - yes an AFM could have run the takeover when I had my exams but when I got back from my exams there would be nothing to do.

I am not going to leave for a good while and an AFM will be in a position for a good while before I do leave, I'm not going to leave HxF in the lurch. Even Jin has said there would be no point in an AFM if I am capable of doing the work myself, as Myke said if I am away or whatever (which happens about once every 6 months as is about to happen) then Garion can overlook the department but as someone said the Super Moderators are more than capable and these people are in charge. An Assistant Forum Manager will not benefit this forum.

In terms of groups, before I started a promotion system I wanted to track the progress of them, which is something I've been doing over the past month (but y'know not everyone can see what I'm up to as I don't blast it out in public, so you just flame me as being incapable) and over the last 4 weeks only around 5 groups have been made and very few groups are attracting members.

Whoever said groups were implemented as a member idea - this was true. They are a reasonably hard thing to think of a promotion system and the way I've looked at it over the past month I don't think a promotion system, such as you said Saurav, would work entirely well - I drew up a promotions system for 'Groups of the Month' including 'Most Imaginative Group' and 'Group with Most Members' (but you said I'd not looking into publicising these, you can't see the Forum Management Forum) however I don't think such things would increase the group activity without significant prizes and I think there are better uses we can put significant prizes to - which is the sole reason why I haven't released a promotions system.

I suppose the question I have to think about is whether it is beneficial to keep groups on the side as something to give users the option of using if they want (afterall it doesn't matter if they are that quiet as long as some people are using them) or whether to get rid of them altogether. I remember the groups being incredibly active when we did the Habbox Election, so perhaps they could come in useful for those sorts of competitions. The discussions in groups were never going to be active - we have forums for that, but if 5 people are gonna make a group in a month and a reasonable amount join new groups then I'm prepared to see how it grows, but I'm not prepared to chuck significant prizes at something like that when we could be using them for more important things, remember we only have a limited amount.

[Alex3213]

Read my post above Theres two features managers .

I also agree with Myke, but with Yoshi also. Yoshi works a lot, just isn't seen often and 99% of the time rep requests have been done quickly for me (ok I've been here 7 months but still), and 100% with good reason if it's slightly delayed. He's also been working his socks off recently and I've noticed this.

Also Oli, you make very valid points and I see the reasoning behind it.

[Tintinnabulate]

In all honesty, I think there's a lot said here which you lot don't really have a clue about - yes an AFM could have run the takeover when I had my exams but when I got back from my exams there would be nothing to do.

I am not going to leave for a good while and an AFM will be in a position for a good while before I do leave, I'm not going to leave HxF in the lurch. Even Jin has said there would be no point in an AFM if I am capable of doing the work myself, as Myke said if I am away or whatever (which happens about once every 6 months as is about to happen) then Garion can overlook the department but as someone said the Super Moderators are more than capable and these people are in charge. An Assistant Forum Manager will not benefit this forum.

In terms of groups, before I started a promotion system I wanted to track the progress of them, which is something I've been doing over the past month (but y'know not everyone can see what I'm up to as I don't blast it out in public, so you just flame me as being incapable) and over the last 4 weeks only around 5 groups have been made and very few groups are attracting members.

Whoever said groups were implemented as a member idea - this was true. They are a reasonably hard thing to think of a promotion system and the way I've looked at it over the past month I don't think a promotion system, such as you said Saurav, would work entirely well - I drew up a promotions system for 'Groups of the Month' including 'Most Imaginative Group' and 'Group with Most Members' (but you said I'd not looking into publicising these, you can't see the Forum Management Forum) however I don't think such things would increase the group activity without significant prizes and I think there are better uses we can put significant prizes to - which is the sole reason why I haven't released a promotions system.

I suppose the question I have to think about is whether it is beneficial to keep groups on the side as something to give users the option of using if they want (afterall it doesn't matter if they are that quiet as long as some people are using them) or whether to get rid of them altogether. I remember the groups being incredibly active when we did the Habbox Election, so perhaps they could come in useful for those sorts of competitions. The discussions in groups were never going to be active - we have forums for that, but if 5 people are gonna make a group in a month and a reasonable amount join new groups then I'm prepared to see how it grows, but I'm not prepared to chuck significant prizes at something like that when we could be using them for more important things, remember we only have a limited amount.

Yes but when your exams finished, the event still didn't happen for June.
Groups and Arcade are both similar - doesn't help the forum much. Its better to get rid of them and install things which actually benefits the forum. The WC prediction thing was popular and increased posting as people were discussing their predictions, yet management don't want this. Football is followed all over the world and this forum has mainly British users, it would benefit the forum more than Groups and Arcade.

I also agree with Myke, but with Yoshi also. Yoshi works a lot, just isn't seen often and 99% of the time rep requests have been done quickly for me (ok I've been here 7 months but still), and 100% with good reason if it's slightly delayed. He's also been working his socks off recently and I've noticed this.

Also Oli, you make very valid points and I see the reasoning behind it.

Regarding Yoshi, he may get the job done quick, but when the forum is lacking posts, and he makes 2 public posts in 2-3 months, its not really ideal.

[Alex3213]

Regarding Yoshi, he may get the job done quick, but when the forum is lacking posts, and he makes 2 public posts in 2-3 months, its not really ideal.

Then maybe that's something which can be looked upon in the future. Although staff are encouraged to post, his job is to complete the features, VIP, Usertitles, Rep etc- not to post and although that is helpful, in my opinion it is not his first priority.

[Tintinnabulate]

Then maybe that's something which can be looked upon in the future. Although staff are encouraged to post, his job is to complete the features, VIP, Usertitles, Rep etc- not to post and although that is helpful, in my opinion it is not his first priority.

In which case, it should be in all admins job desc.