Burn-A-Koran Day to be held on anniversary of 9/11, tension mounts

[Storking]

If certain individuals are allowed to hijack 2 airplanes and fly them into 2 buildings, killing nearly 3000 people.. then why aren't other individuals allowed to burn a book?

He isn't physically harming anyone, he should be able to do what ever the hell he likes after what the day represents and the amount of innocent people that were killed.

It's just a book with some words after all.. it's not as if the Qur'an he's burning is the ORIGINAL book.. otherwise that might be slightly out of order.

[Invent]

If certain individuals are allowed to hijack 2 airplanes and fly them into 2 buildings, killing nearly 3000 people.. then why aren't other individuals allowed to burn a book?

He isn't physically harming anyone, he should be able to do what ever the hell he likes after what the day represents and the amount of innocent people that were killed.

It's just a book with some words after all.. it's not as if the Qur'an he's burning is the ORIGINAL book.. otherwise that might be slightly out of order.

First of all, since when are you "allowed" to hijack planes? Secondly, the individuals who did the 9/11 attacks were god damn extremists not regular followers of the religion.

But anyway, how the hell does 9/11 justify burning a religion's holy book which in one fell swoop causes offence to everyone who is a member of that religion.

[-:Undertaker:-]

First of all, since when are you "allowed" to hijack planes? Secondly, the individuals who did the 9/11 attacks were god damn extremists not regular followers of the religion.

But anyway, how the hell does 9/11 justify burning a religion's holy book which in one fell swoop causes offence to everyone who is a member of that religion.

If the threat of burning the Koran on the other side of the world is provoking this kind of a response from the Islamic world, then the idea that it is only ever the tiny minority who take Islam seriously is clearly and utterly being proved wrong before our own eyes.

[Kipp]

I understand why he would do this, but personally I don't think its right to burn the Our'an. Oh well its his decision. To be, it seems a bit harsh to do it.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Personally I hope this pastor gets what's coming to him. He's clearly a very ignorant little man who doesn't even understand his own religion, let alone other religions. The death threats are valid, because his views on the world are clearly invalid.

His views like any other views are valid in any free, fair and democratic nation.

The choice is (now that the West has no faith of its own) that we either stand up for democracy and civil liberties, or we allow those with a faith that is backward to eventually subvert our views/ways of living to match that of their own. Islam does not rule the west and nor should it, whether offically or not offically. Our politicians constantly drone on about how we should be tolerant of other views/ways of life - well maybe for once they should show some tolerence to the views of others themselves.

Or is it as I suspect, a one-way train?

[AgnesIO]

Burn-A-Koran?

This guy is a pillock. If I burnt a bible in front of his face he would probably use that gun on me.

[Inseriousity.]

Lol I think there's a difference between taking your religion seriously and then taking it to the extreme. Lots of people take their religion seriously (it's their belief, why would they not take it seriously?) but only a minority take it to the extreme of blowing up a train on the London Underground/hijacking planes and crashing them into the Twin Towers

[-:Undertaker:-]

Lol I think there's a difference between taking your religion seriously and then taking it to the extreme. Lots of people take their religion seriously (it's their belief, why would they not take it seriously?) but only a minority take it to the extreme of blowing up a train on the London Underground/hijacking planes and crashing them into the Twin Towers

But the Pastor is only being proved right by the response he is getting from the political class and from the Islamic world. We are seeing effigys of Terry Jones being burnt on the streets with many calling for this death for being critical of Islam and we are seeing the politicians condemn this outright, but whenever it is the other way around (muslims burning effigys of various people in the West) we never see such a response. The very fact the US army is warning their may be a dangerous reaction to a simple book burning rather proves his point.

Islam cannot seem to take any criticism.

[AgnesIO]

But the Pastor is only being proved right by the response he is getting from the political class and from the Islamic world. We are seeing effigys of Terry Jones being burnt on the streets with many calling for this death for being critical of Islam and we are seeing the politicians condemn this outright, but whenever it is the other way around (muslims burning effigys of various people in the West) we never see such a response. The very fact the US army is warning their may be a dangerous reaction to a simple book burning rather proves his point.

Islam cannot seem to take any criticism.

That's rubbish. Islam can take criticism, and I think you are actually insulting some people with that comment. You are using the view that all Muslim's are extremists. Which is an unfair, unintelligent response.

[-:Undertaker:-]

That's rubbish. Islam can take criticism, and I think you are actually insulting some people with that comment. You are using the view that all Muslim's are extremists. Which is an unfair, unintelligent response.

Hang on a second, I have not for one moment suggested that all muslims are extremists - what I am asking plainly is why is it that everytime somebody criticises Islam they are threatened with death? why do we have protests on the streets of Islamic nations threatening people with death who dare criticise Islam? why are our politicians so protective (or scared?) of Islam but not of other issues when it comes down to freedom of speech?

As for insulting Islam, I can hold any view I wish on the matter - just as many on here condemn the Catholic Church over and over again. My personal stance is that if a mosque is eligable for planning permission at Ground Zero then it should be built at Ground Zero. If a Pastor wishes to burn the Koran then let him build a Koran. If somebody wishes to criticise a religion then they can.

It seems as per usual, whenever somebody questions Islam - they are jumped upon, just as you have done so with me right now.