♫ Opinions on Old Music? ♫

[RedStratocas]

It's boring as hell for the vast majority and I don't care if they were more technically able than current musicians (which I don't believe to be the case anyway) if it sounds crap I don't want to listen to it. Furthermore:

"When I'm ridin' round the world
and I'm doin' this and I'm signing that
and I'm tryin' to make some girl
who tells me baby better come back later next week
'cause you see I'm on losing streak.
I can't get no, oh no no no.
Hey hey hey, that's what I say"

Hardly takes more talent and vision to write than

"Visualising the realism of life and actuality -
**** who's the baddest a person's status depends on salary.
And my mentality is money orientated,
I'm destined to live the dream for all my peeps who never made it
'cause yeah, we were beginners in the hood as five percenters
But something must of got in us cause all of us turned to sinners,
Now some, resting in peace and some are sitting in San Quentin,
Others such as myself are trying to carry on tradition."

the first verse of "life's a *****" is arguably the greatest in all of hip hop, no lie.

what really bugs me about people who think older music is better is that they are completely blind of modern music history. every generation looks down upon the next generation and thinks its talentless garbage. hip hop enthusiasts are looked down upon by rock enthusiasts, rock enthusiasts were looked down upon by jazz enthusiasts, jazz enthusiasts were looked down upon by classical enthusiasts, etc. when you realize that the gap comes from generational differences rather than actual musical merit, thats when you can have an open mind about new artists.

[Judas]

what really bugs me about people who think older music is better is that they are completely blind of modern music history. every generation looks down upon the next generation and thinks its talentless garbage. hip hop enthusiasts are looked down upon by rock enthusiasts, rock enthusiasts were looked down upon by jazz enthusiasts, jazz enthusiasts were looked down upon by classical enthusiasts, etc. when you realize that the gap comes from generational differences rather than actual musical merit, thats when you can have an open mind about new artists.

i think you summed that up perfectly

it also works with genres, pisses me off when people say that one genre requires no talent to write music for. like, when people say you need no talent to write rap or pop music - a lot of the time true, but not always. you cant generalise music like that

[samsaBEAR]

i think you summed that up perfectly

it also works with genres, pisses me off when people say that one genre requires no talent to write music for. like, when people say you need no talent to write rap or pop music - a lot of the time true, but not always. you cant generalise music like that

I sort of agree with rap. Like I don't listen to it, but I have respect for the people who write and perform it and whatnot. Pop however, is different. I know I'm generalising, but I have little-to-no respect for 'artists' who have songs written for them, have all the music arranged for them, and then have their vocals autotuned because they can rarely sing with it. Just irks me that that's the music getting popular, when their are a **** ton more talented performers across all other genres that work a thousands times harder, but don't get the success they deserve

[KyoraStryker]

I sort of agree with rap. Like I don't listen to it, but I have respect for the people who write and perform it and whatnot. Pop however, is different. I know I'm generalising, but I have little-to-no respect for 'artists' who have songs written for them, have all the music arranged for them, and then have their vocals autotuned because they can rarely sing with it. Just irks me that that's the music getting popular, when their are a **** ton more talented performers across all other genres that work a thousands times harder, but don't get the success they deserve

Agreed.

Far be it for me to say that I listen to anything remotely close to rap, but that doesn't mean I don't respect the work that gets put into it.

I'm more than certain if you took the time to dissect a song, there's a powerful meaning behind it.

[Dannnny,]

Abolutly love old music i love it better than new music as you may be able to tell on my shows LOL

[Judas]

I sort of agree with rap. Like I don't listen to it, but I have respect for the people who write and perform it and whatnot. Pop however, is different. I know I'm generalising, but I have little-to-no respect for 'artists' who have songs written for them, have all the music arranged for them, and then have their vocals autotuned because they can rarely sing with it. Just irks me that that's the music getting popular, when their are a **** ton more talented performers across all other genres that work a thousands times harder, but don't get the success they deserve

thats exactly what im talking about, thats really generalising a whole genre. not everyone in pop music is manufactured and cant write songs or cant sing. obviously a lot of it is no doubt, and i agree and have no respect whatsoever for people like that but you cant say you hate all pop musicians, because not all of them are like that?

[Plebings]

While most pop artists still don't write their own songs, in the recent years we have been getting more performers who can sing live.

Which is possibly the only thing we can thank the X Factor for, we know the people who come out on top CAN sing live.

There's still the odd act that can't sing live though, blame late 90s for the presumption that pop stars can't sing.

I won't stop denying that Lady GaGa has upped pop's game.

[Plebings]

While most pop artists still don't write their own songs, in the recent years we have been getting more performers who can sing live.

Which is possibly the only thing we can thank the X Factor for, we know the people who come out on top CAN sing live.

There's still the odd act that can't sing live though, blame late 90s for the presumption that pop stars can't sing.

I won't stop denying that Lady GaGa has upped pop's game.

[samsaBEAR]

thats exactly what im talking about, thats really generalising a whole genre. not everyone in pop music is manufactured and cant write songs or cant sing. obviously a lot of it is no doubt, and i agree and have no respect whatsoever for people like that but you cant say you hate all pop musicians, because not all of them are like that?

I just don't like pop music

[peteyt]

Is it just me who gets annoyed when people say they hate "old music" - define old music please?

The problem is old music isn't a genre - I hardy listen to them now but really was into Franz Ferdinand when they first came out - and it seemed to change brit rock - but that was quite a few years back - so is that classed as old?

I love all types of music - and the best thing is to judge it not by its age, but simply by how it sounds. It does annoy me when stuff is all edited to make it sound way better than it actually is - but then if it sounds good in the end, I suppose its kind of worth it.

Someone mentioned X Factor and how we know they can sing live - Is that fully true? I hear they use autotune a lot on the show and other stuff, but I wouldn't know. My biggest problem with X Factor is how it simply creates bands and artists that end up getting other people to write their own stuff, create the sounds and so on.

I mentioned ages ago my love for Tom Waits - i've only got a few of his albums but I really loved that he's slowly tried to experiment with music - i read that he tried to use everyday items as instruments - I wish there where more people who tried to do more with music instead of just reading someone's lyrics and then letting someone else produce a track/beat etc.