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    Oooo, playing the 'show you can remain dedicated to habbox' card, touché.
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    Garion has kinda summed it up.. the department isn't really doing amazingly well atm and we did need someone who would put the time and effort in and someone who knew what they were doing, and seeing as shah was assistant not so long ago, then it makes sense to hire her back.

    Although I agree with everyone else, I know some SS were trying hard to get the job - especially mark! It's kinda unfair but it's happened so we might as well work on improving the department rather than complaining/quitting :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs.McCall View Post
    But on the flip side of that what's the point of them working so hard if someone is going to be queue jumped to the front? I see the point about needing a manager quick time but what if she decides to stay for 6 months or a year? That means no hope of promotion for anyone else which then creates less job satisfation.

    I think it is bad that someone has been promoted that quickly and I can see why it is seen as unfair.
    I can see your point, but my point is that currently no member of HxHD Staff have shown the dedication or hard work that justifies a promotion. I don't want to belittle the staff, they all do a great job, but are all currently away / busy and are unable to demonstrate the dedication that the department needs at this point in time to ensure it's improvement. Thus, we are caught in between a rock and a hard place and a difficult decision had to be made.

    However, I recognise (as above) that it's a bit of a crap situation for other members of staff. My problem is that currently I don't think members of staff are being given opportunities to develop or hone the skills they have to demonstrate to move up the ranks, part of this responsibility lies with their managers and I do think there have been failures across the board in regard to this. We need to ensure that management are constantly evaluating and feeding back on their staff so as to put them in a position to take the mantle should it be necessary. 'High achievers' and possible future successors should be spotted and honed as necessary.

    Although I should stress that this responsibility doesn't rest solely with current management. The staff themselves, across all departments, have to first prove themselves capable.

    If this happens then we can avoid situations such as this in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixt View Post
    But, in a different situation, I was allowed to come back as AFM after a long time inactive because they felt I was best suited to the job. What we're looking at here is ensuring the best possible people are in the positions. HxHD Staff were unhappy because David is awfully busy coding, Shar has the experience and the capability of providing high quality management so she can hit the ground running when the department needs attention quick time.

    I agree, it isn't an ideal situation and I can see why people are pissed - at the same time, we need to prioritise and currently our priorities are with attempting to ensure things are running as smoothly as possible while we try and deal with the numerous other problems we are currently facing. I, personally, don't have the time to have inexperienced managers take over a struggling department because that just adds yet another problem on my ever growing pile to address. This is a bit of a crapper for those involved, granted, but they will get the opportunity - provided they are able to prove, now, that they are willing to remain dedicated to Habbox while we make difficult, radical and sometimes potentially unpopular decisions in an attempt to address the problems we are having.
    Its unfair. She wasn't a manager and gained experience. A new manager could do just as well, if not then even better...

    Resigning, returning as a trialist and asking for Assistant back shows a lack of faith in the department and laziness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixt View Post
    I can see your point, but my point is that currently no member of HxHD Staff have shown the dedication or hard work that justifies a promotion. I don't want to belittle the staff, they all do a great job, but are all currently away / busy and are unable to demonstrate the dedication that the department needs at this point in time to ensure it's improvement.
    Well resigning and asking for it back shows a clear lack of dedication ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    Its unfair. She wasn't a manager and gained experience. A new manager could do just as well, if not then even better...

    Resigning, returning as a trialist and asking for Assistant back shows a lack of faith in the department and laziness.
    If the commitment and dedication was there to start with she would have stayed in the first place and not quit.

    I personally think it is unfair, whether or not the department is failing.

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    Like Nixt said though, there's clearly issues behind the scene he can't divluge but I think we should trust the decision of General Management. It's a crappy situation but sometimes when the chips are down the tough decisions have to be made. If Shar is capable enough to help turn things around a bit then I guess it's for the best.


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    I'm sure all members of staff were told a while ago that if they leave the department, they would have to work their way back up through the department from a trialist. Shar was more or less given her old position back and I think if this was the same for those Super Staff who had resigned, possibly one of those could've taken the position a while ago and then when Shar wanted to return, could have returned back as a Super Staff. Having said that, you would face almost exactly the same situation as we have now of others feeling left and pushed out.


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    This is where a different set of rules etc for different people is proven.

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    Well I don't think it's fair for each department to have their own rule. There should be a general one. Like why should I have to go from Trialist and others not. There should be general rules for all departments.


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    All the manager does by leaving and returning is piss off their staff and make the department worse.

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