Cameron lectures China on democracy

[Frodo13.]

Maybe you'd like to address my points rather than banging on about the Daily Mail?

That right there is the great irony in you. I wouldn't be defending your points, I'm defending the points of a newspaper. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure I read on this forum a while back that you want to do history at uni? You would make a terrible historian due to you being able to draw points from a single source.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'm rather sick of people such as yourself sniping at my arguments (without actually disproving anything yourselves) by attacking the Daily Mail when I could very easily do the same by criticising the Guardian/the Mirror and by saying 'ahh but yes, this is the Guardian brainwashing you' - if I followed the Daily Mail to the line then i'd be under the impression (pre-election) that David Cameron was the next Jesus Christ. The Mail avidly pitched in for Cameron just as it did for Blair in 1997.

So enough of this newspaper nonsense.

That right there is the great irony in you. I wouldn't be defending your points, I'm defending the points of a newspaper. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure I read on this forum a while back that you want to do history at uni? You would make a terrible historian due to you being able to draw points from a single source.

But my arguments about China aren't coming from the Daily Mail so i'm struggling here to find your 'point'. What is your point??

That article you could argue pretty much has negative-China feel, i'm arguing in support of China in some aspects, so again whats your point?

[Jordy]

You've just dismissed everything I said and gone on about poverty and starvation which has little to do with it, Germany was arguabley better under Adolf Hitler but it doesn't mean he was such a great thing.

You also say we can vote, yeah we can - but the person we vote in takes orders from people who we don't. A bit like China if i'm not mistaken, China has local/regional elections to my knowledge where they pick a manager-type figure who ultimately has to take orders from the supreme CCP or the Chinese Courts. Indeed, very much like Mr Cameron takes orders from the Commission and the European Courts.

I mean take one example, we can lock people up here (without charging them) for longer than they do in Zimbabwe. Just because we have food on the table, a advanced economy and smooth roads doesn't mean we are freer than those who are poor.

The reason I dismissed everything you said was because I wasn't replying to you. And once again I'm going to dismiss everything you've said as I don't feel I need to explain once again how lucky we have it, nor do I need to compare the UK/EU to the likes of China and Zimbabwe in an attempt to prove a point.

[StefanWolves]

If I were Chinese I'd rather die than live in their country. Don't they have to have a license to have babies over their?

Anyway, China will take over the world one day and we will all be Chow-mein munchers