Student fee 'savings' will fund windmills in Africa

[Chippiewill]

If we're making cuts then why aren't we making cuts to what we give to others?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Nothing like the last government.

Why, whats changed? we still give and continue to increase enormous sums to the European Union, we still give enormous sums (and have increased) the amount we give in foreign aid - we still are running into severe debt, we still fight useless wars on behalf of another country, we still continue (this thread is an example of this) to charge the British people more and more at home while costs spiral and we continue spending money on things that if people had any control over their own money, they would not want it spent on.

So I ask, what has changed?

Of course it is. Where is it in black and white from a realible government source quoted by the paper that this is what is happening. They are scaremongering as usual and you are aiding them in this quest as usual. As I understand it the money saved on tuition fees is going to pay for the pupil premiums as quoted by Clegg and Cameron on many occasions.

Because the money to climate change is increasing, which will not get the debt down - the reason we are being made to pay £3,000 to £6,000 more for university. You know, "we're all in this together" and so forth? Why should the British people be charged more, for less of a service?

Different departments have their own independent budgets. Education and international aid aren't in the same department. This article is not true. </thread>

So why aren't the following being cut?; the climate change budget, the EU budget and the foreign aid budget to name the three prime examples of complete and utter waste on a disgusting scale. We are throwing away billions whilst running up a huge debt, whilst asking our people to still pay more towards this waste.

Give people a break.

This is true, I don't think the Coalition is deliberately "diverting" money either as it simply doesn't work like that but that's not to say I agree with money being spent on "windmills in Africa".

However it's good to remember commitments to climate change etc rarely account to much, countries always pledge humongous amounts of money at summits but not often does it account to anything. For instance only 2% of money pledged to Haiti by government's following the Earthquake has actually reached Haiti: http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-14/w...on?_s=PM:WORLD

Be very sceptical of pledges.

£18bn a year is spent on 'tackling' global warming directly from the climate change act, thats not to mention the rest of the revenue the government raises via green taxation.

[hairpins]

btw just so yew no da govament wont save ne moneyz bi makin pplz pay 9 grand 4 sum education
coz how many pplz have £9000+ a year spair? PMSL

da govament r gonna have 2 lend pplz MORE moni 2 go 2 uni which meens they r gnna have 2 borrow more moni… increesin the countries debt woo

[Jordy]

btw just so yew no da govament wont save ne moneyz bi makin pplz pay 9 grand 4 sum education
coz how many pplz have £9000+ a year spair? PMSL

da govament r gonna have 2 lend pplz MORE moni 2 go 2 uni which meens they r gnna have 2 borrow more moni… increesin the countries debt woo

so by ya rekoning den we shudnt pay taxes cos we cnt afford 2 pay dem. ow will da govamant get outta debt?

[hairpins]

so by ya rekoning den we shudnt pay taxes cos we cnt afford 2 pay dem. ow will da govamant get outta debt?

eye dunt get yew hun sorri xoxo

wot eye am sayin iz da govament r sayin increesin dese fees wil generate more moneyz n pay off sum of da countries debt
but rly dey wont will dey coz da student loanz compani r gonna have 2 lend students £9000 a year instead of £3000… so da govament iz gonna have 2 borrow more moni to lend 2 da students……………………

but den agen dey will get loadz of moni from da students wen dey pay back der loanz coz dey r gonna be payin them bk 4 da rest of der lives. omg and with credit card intrest r8s applied to dem pmsl…x

o and ontop a gradu8 tax wtbobba ??????

[AgnesIO]

This really infuriates me.

Why save a world, that is going to end eventually anyway. Why not enjoy the lives we have - we won't speed up the end of the world that much anyway. Maybe a few hundred million years - which is nothing compared to the 13 billion years the world has already existed for.

[GommeInc]

Can I just say briefly that, although the Government have diverted funds away from full-time study, the Government is now supporting part-time study where students studying at 25% of their time are now eligible for loans and financial support. So the money the Government is saving is actually being poured back into Education by allowing greater assistance for part-time students. So not entirely accurate.