Really dont get this rule.

[GommeInc]

"You will probably get an infraction for that" is different to "Learn the forum rules" or "stop breaking rules or get out" - these are things I've seen edited by mods in the past under that particular rule.

All three of them are quite bad. "You will get an infraction for that" - says who? That's broken the rule as it's suggesting you know they will get an infraction. The last one is rude and the second can be rude depending on context. Infact, I'd say point 1 and 3 are the ones that would get the warning, while point 2 won't.

So your sentence should be:

"You will probably get an infraction for that" or "stop breaking the rules or get out" is different to "Learn the forum rules" - these are things I've seen edited by mods in the past under that particular rule.

Not sure what you meant by the rest of your sentence as you seem to be suggesting moderators can say those things and not be considered rude - weren't we talking about members pretending they're moderators or advising members about the rules?. If a moderator said any of those I'd probably tell them to get "stuffed" and learn some manners

[Hecktix]

All three of them are quite bad. "You will get an infraction for that" - says who? That's broken the rule as it's suggesting you know they will get an infraction. The last one is rude and the second can be rude depending on context. Infact, I'd say point 1 and 3 are the ones that would get the warning, while point 2 won't.

So your sentence should be:

"You will probably get an infraction for that" or "stop breaking the rules or get out" is different to "Learn the forum rules" - these are things I've seen edited by mods in the past under that particular rule.

Not sure what you meant by the rest of your sentence as you seem to be suggesting moderators can say those things and not be considered rude - weren't we talking about members pretending they're moderators or advising members about the rules?. If a moderator said any of those I'd probably tell them to get "stuffed" and learn some manners

Quite true about the mods saying that being rude, but generally they are examples of what people have said in the past. I think telling someone to learn the rules should be against that rule as it's not the place of a member to say that.

However, saying to someone "you'll probs get infracted for that" is in my eyes, you just saying to someone that you think the mods might deal with them, it's not acting as a mod.. i.e. telling them NOT to break the rules or reading them the riot act etc. This rule (in my eyes) is rarely broken, it was much so more when we had a lot of hostility towards newer/younger members in 08/09.

[Catzsy]

Remove the spam forum from the new post section if that's the main reason why the rule was implemented. I think this is a perfect time to use the phrase:




I never realised there was a rule against spamming threads in spam, I always do it. If that means I have broken the rules, feel free to punish me. Spam has always been pretty laid back and just because the odd *** likes to ruin the forum doesn't mean you should punish us all. Spam is a bit of fun banter, I say ignore it unless it's breaking the obvious forum rules like avoiding the filter or bullying etc.. Just when I thought the forum was finally at a stage that was laid back and suited us all. If you removed the spam section from new posts view then the spam section could well be faced with pages and pages of rubbish which would not be good at all.



Which would strike out that rule. Spam is pointless messages that people usually ignore. If you got a spam email would you consider it pointless?

One thing I hate about this forum is moderators can use their discretion, one user could be constantly targeted by moderators whilst other users can do as they please. I'm not saying they do, it's just an example of what could be the outcome. All users should be treated equally and posts should only be removed if they break the forum rules, not if the moderators feel like they have or not. It's common sense.

Pretty good rant there, Richie. The only thing I would point out is this rule has been there since 2006 and maybe even before that , for the reasons stated quite a few times, so nobody has changed anything and I really think that this whole thread is making a mountain out of a molehill. Mods/Smods are human and they all have to learn as they go along so a few mistakes maybe made on the way which are admitted. I really don't think that moderator discretion can be used to target anybody as it is usually used to be a bit more lenient. Moderators cannot give a harsher penalty than is allowed anyway.

[GommeInc]

However, saying to someone "you'll probs get infracted for that" is in my eyes, you just saying to someone that you think the mods might deal with them, it's not acting as a mod.. i.e. telling them NOT to break the rules or reading them the riot act etc. This rule (in my eyes) is rarely broken, it was much so more when we had a lot of hostility towards newer/younger members in 08/09.

It is a bit rude, but I guess it depends on how the member who has allegedly broken the rules reacts and how it is portrayed. If it's done playfully and as a miniscule warning it's fine, but if they're saying "you will get an infraction for that" it comes off as a bit rude and authoritative, and may cause arguments. The rule was more broken in the past when moderators felt any action like this require immediate action. I remember the Habbo forums constantly having these warnings