Under moderation in graphics., rules anyone?

[Samantha]

Got a comment on a new thread and they said 'I like the way you shaded the pants' but I haven't shaded them? Is that pointless considering theyre white and the threadtitle clearly says its a chibi not an alt. I don't think cc should be applied to all graphics posts and threads and u don't think we were implying that as said earlier if we ask for cc then we should expect it to an extent. Yrs we could reply and ask why they liked it but they could read the op clearly asking for cc instead. I just got another 'it's cute' too idm but can't people use a different word.

[Zelda]

Tbh there has to be some sort of sense with what people are complaining about with moderation. You can't just complain about over moderation with pointless posting then about under moderation with pointless posting, its simple contradiction.

Tbh bumping shouldn't be pointless really, it aids a discussion, though would be nice if they could put something in tbh not just "bump". Tbh there is not enough threads in some sections as it is that you feel you can post on without being accused of post count or bumping and have a ton of people -rep you, so keeping threads open by allowing bumping will surely just aid level of conversation?

[Samantha]

Jan the bump thread another one. However there's a difference in forums where by short answers would be allowed in over threads but not in some.

[GommeInc]

I don't think you understand the notion of some threads having specific topics and purposes. Posts that do not fulfill those are pointless posts, regardless of how nice they're being

I don't think you know what pointless means and are therefore confused with what a pointless post is. Besides, if you bothered reading my posts you would know that I do know threads have specific purposes, but for threads like the ones mentioned by the OP it would be impossible to stop members from posting short answers. They do no harm at all, and to tell the forum to create such an archaic rule would be counter-productive and put members off from posting, especially when comments that compliment something you have bought or created are not deconstructive or rude. Is a post saying "That's an amazing alt!" really that harmful? At least it has been recognised, but for some reason compliments and positive criticisms must really anger some people :rolleyes:

[FlyingJesus]

How do you not get this? It's extremely simple. If someone asks for a specific type of answer and someone makes a different type of answer, that is pointless. There's no actual "harm" done in announcing that you love cucumbers in a thread that asks which football team you support but it's still pointless because it is not what the thread is asking for

[dbgtz]

None of those posts were pointless :/ They were all in context and served a purpose - he liked the alts. You're suggesting that members should be more descriptive when making posts, and suggesting all members should be strong, art critics

It doesn't take much effort to say why. Admittedly, I have previously pushed for proper constructive criticism but that was unrealistic. This is why I am proposing the change of rule ultimately, but I was just bringing to attention how much the same user just spams virtually the same comments.

Also can I ask how it took 6 days since the posting of bigger avatars in feedback and then it being adjusted yet I have been pushing for the tight graphics feedback rules for those who want real feedback for 10 days and for tighter graphics rules generally for years (with me not being the only one). Infact I believe it began when Favouritism was fired/quit however long ago that was.

How hard is it to change a rule to the perfect compromise?

[Kyle]

If somebody posts their art/photography on habboxforum it isn't likely that they're going to be expecting proper criticism. If they ask for it specifically then yes, posts should probably include it, but what harm does it do if they don't? the OP's picture is still being appreciated and I'm sure that still means a lot to them.

[dbgtz]

Because it takes the piss when all you get is useless crap. I see how some people wouldn't mind it, but I personally do not appreciate it hence why I'm trying to push CC only on request.

[FlyingJesus]

If they ask for it specifically then yes, posts should probably include it

Which is all that anyone's asking for

but what harm does it do if they don't? the OP's picture is still being appreciated and I'm sure that still means a lot to them.

omg no OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T if they're wanting a rule change. If someone made a thread asking people to help look for any flaws in a piece of coding and I just put "nice words" I doubt they would appreciate it

[GommeInc]

How do you not get this? It's extremely simple. If someone asks for a specific type of answer and someone makes a different type of answer, that is pointless. There's no actual "harm" done in announcing that you love cucumbers in a thread that asks which football team you support but it's still pointless because it is not what the thread is asking for

To them maybe, but to everyone else it isn't pointless. It still has a point in the grand scheme of things - it contributes and has a purpose, hence it has a point. Also, your example "cucumbers in a football thread" is NOT the same as "your alt is good" in an alt thread, because the topic (hence on-topic) is that it's a comment about the alt. Cucumbers in a football thread, especially a small statement like "I like cucumbers" is pointless, because it serves no purpose.

Posting complimentary, kind remarks about an alt or work you've done on a car is harmless, it isn't pointless and it isn't off-topic. If anything it's useless for the person asking for CC. But like I said, all you have to do is ask or wait until someone does give CC. All threads at least have someone give CC, and when someone doesn't you usually get members saying "He wants more than just that, READ!" It's OTT to make a rule which is just too strict to enforce, and will not solve the problem - some members like to be kind and leave comments, while others write essays which depict their thoughts If someone does post a "useless" comment, let the OP or other members in the thread self-moderate the posts, or simply let it go because it's not worth a moderator's time to warn a member, edit their posts or message them. Besides, if you do not get the posts you desire - simply post in the thread to give it the attention you need. It's better people post to keep a thread afloat than let it die.