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    Quote Originally Posted by BamitsElfie! View Post
    Yeah I guess. I am pretty biased I suppose, and I just think it would be wrong because a mother who takes illegal drugs but doesn't get put in prison often gets her child taken away from her and sometimes even has a restraining order put in place, but a mother who does get put in prison gets another chance? This makes no sense to me :S
    Well yeah, sorry didn't know it was your post I quoted haha! I do agree that maybe it depends on the crime maybe too? With murder or something extreme like that or even physical abuse to someone then really they can't and shouldn't be responsible because of the risk of the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samanfa View Post
    Well yeah, sorry didn't know it was your post I quoted haha! I do agree that maybe it depends on the crime maybe too? With murder or something extreme like that or even physical abuse to someone then really they can't and shouldn't be responsible because of the risk of the child.
    Plus mental issues and stuff that makes the unpredictable maybe?

    Or if she treats her child like the Dursleys treated Harry

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    Of course, if the crime wasn't violent/baby's not at risk.

    A large large large portion of your developmental skills are developed between the ages of 0-5, it's almost essential that the baby's around its mother, if we're talking a nonviolent crime then the mother in question likely is not serving a life sentence, it would be an awful punishment to have a child only to have it raised by someone else.

    And I'd also argue that prison's more about rehabilitation than punishment, this is up there on the scale of punishment, if prisoners are treated like vermin, when they're released they'll likely act like it too, and relapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Becca View Post
    Are you being serious? Maybe that person was pregnant before she even committed a crime? Maybe this woman was committed and ready to have a child then something happened? It's selfish for you to say that nevermind calling them selfish for bringing a baby into the world. So what if it's being brought up in a Prison Nursery, least it's still being looked after and fed unlike some babies that aren't even in jail so yeah, shut up xox
    you don't tell someone to shut up just because their opinion is different to yours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Becca View Post
    Are you being serious? Maybe that person was pregnant before she even committed a crime? Maybe this woman was committed and ready to have a child then something happened? It's selfish for you to say that nevermind calling them selfish for bringing a baby into the world. So what if it's being brought up in a Prison Nursery, least it's still being looked after and fed unlike some babies that aren't even in jail so yeah, shut up xox
    This ^ and the good reasons over come the bad ones. Not for life sentences though or really violent crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Becca View Post
    Are you being serious? Maybe that person was pregnant before she even committed a crime? Maybe this woman was committed and ready to have a child then something happened? It's selfish for you to say that nevermind calling them selfish for bringing a baby into the world. So what if it's being brought up in a Prison Nursery, least it's still being looked after and fed unlike some babies that aren't even in jail so yeah, shut up xox

    I dont know much about it, but if the baby cant go out as a child then it is unfair. A child deserves to be raised properly, but if this isnt the case I dont know lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becca View Post
    Are you being serious? Maybe that person was pregnant before she even committed a crime? Maybe this woman was committed and ready to have a child then something happened? It's selfish for you to say that nevermind calling them selfish for bringing a baby into the world. So what if it's being brought up in a Prison Nursery, least it's still being looked after and fed unlike some babies that aren't even in jail so yeah, shut up xox
    She has a valid point. The child could be taken away from such an environment and brought up by foster parents in a safe, loving environment outside the walls of a prison. Just because the mother is in prison doesn't mean they will be left on some street somewhere - many children are kept with relatives OR in a foster home, babies included.

    Besides, if the mother was pregnant before she committed the crime and sent to prison, surely she should be thinking for her unborn child and not her selfish desires to commit a crime? She would be put in prison afterall for committing a serious crime while pregnant, as a court will have sympathy towards her if she is pregnant or with a young baby - not theft or fraud which would probably result in house arrest until the baby is no longer strictly dependent.

    Personally, I think the baby should be kept away. You committed a crime to be chucked into prison, and if it's a serious one more fool you. A baby should be kept away from such environments and keeping them there would be cruel. A loving, fun environment with a foster family would be far more suited to a baby, with obvious visits to the mother as keeping the baby away from the mother for long periods would also be cruel.

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    10 Prisons in the USA have in Prisons Nursery's where Prisoners can raise their newborn babies until the end of their sentence. What do you think of them?

    That was the question, and it relates to newborn babies being raised in prison.

    I am split here, on the one hand why should a criminal be allowed to keep their newborn with them, while the state or whoever funds them, keeps them warm fed and comfortable, and little worry about the cost of raising a child. Yes I may sound harsh, but I am tired of hearing how prisoners sometimes have better facilities than those who struggle and work hard and don't commit crimes.

    On the other hand I don’t think a newborn should be deprived of its mother, and providing the mother hasn’t committed a crime that may put the child in any danger, I think the newborn should be with its mother. Not for the full term of the sentence though, but a pre-determined one.

    We have to remember the child hasn't done anything wrong, so I am really torn on this!
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    If they love their children so much then maybe they should have thought of that before they committed the crime.


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