Train Guard Found Guilty Over Girl's Death

[GommeInc]

Sounds like the mother is just finding someone else to blame after showing negligence to her childs lifestyle

Yes mum, its your fault that you let your 16 year old daughter go out and take drugs. Not the train drivers.

Then again it could be considered harsh to blame the mother. The daughter is 16, she should know what she is doing. If anything the only fault with the mother is not recognising her daughter is not innocent and was ultimately the main contributor to her own negligence.

[efq]

I'm surprised there isn't more of an uproar. The people reading the articles seem to have the same opinion as most of us here that the punishment was totally wrong.

[GommeInc]

I'm surprised there isn't more of an uproar. The people reading the articles seem to have the same opinion as most of us here that the punishment was totally wrong.

You could appeal for him, and start an uproar

It's weird how mixed the views are on this. In my little law group only one other person is supporting the idea that she is partially to blame, most are saying that he is entirely to blame. Which worries me as these are law students. No one seems to understand that she started the event leading up to her death by leaning on the train (departing or not) which requires the train guard to react. His reaction is dictionary definition - to react is to: "respond to or behave in a particular way in response to something." If she had not done anything he simply wouldn't be reacting. It's logically sound but it flies over the heads of my peers for some unknown reason. It makes me wonder if they've programmed their minds to blindly follow rules and law when those very laws are not logically stable in some circumstances.

[Grig]

The verdict is wrong. If I were the judge I would not take mercy on underaged drinking and drug taking and let it be a lesson to other on the repercussions. I do pity the guard though.

[Red]

Poor bloke. He was a bit negligent and it's a wonder why he gave the go ahead , probably knowing she was drunk and in close proximity to the train. It was her underage drinking and drug taking that put her into that situation anyway. The mum has a right cheek for passing the blame and trying to justify her daughter's state.

[Lewis]

In my own opinion the guard is innocent. What I don't understand is lots of people are disgusted by druggies and alcoholics that are especially under age, yet if they die everyone starts feeling sorry for them? It doesn't change the past and what this girl was. Sure, she didn't deserve to die but lets keep in mind it's mainly her fault.

The guard can have a bit of blame, but I honestly think that it's 95% of the girl's fault. Perhaps if the guard did his job properly, she'd be alive? But perhaps if she was leading a good normal healthy life without drugs and alcohol she'd still be here... As much of a tragedy and such a shame, I have no sympathy.

It's the same for drunk drivers, if they crash and die I have absolutely no sympathy for them because they're putting other lives in danger and they have no right to do that! People can -rep me for my views, but this is just my pure honesty!

[Lee]

The guard can have a bit of blame, but I honestly think that it's 95% of the girl's fault.

Perhaps if the guard did his job properly, she'd be alive?

You appear to have contradicting opinions on this. What's the point in having a guard if he tells the driver to go when there's a pissed teenager hanging off the side of the train.

[GommeInc]

You appear to have contradicting opinions on this. What's the point in having a guard if he tells the driver to go when there's a pissed teenager hanging off the side of the train.

I think he sort of proves how confusing it is to get your mind around the case and the rationale behind it

The problem seems to be with the law. The two types of outcomes possible from this case are:

- Manslaughter ~ the guard is to blame for the unintentional, foreseeable death of another
- Accidental suicide ~ the girl accidentally killed herself

[Lewis]

You appear to have contradicting opinions on this. What's the point in having a guard if he tells the driver to go when there's a pissed teenager hanging off the side of the train.

It's the guard's fault she's dead yes, but it's her fault that it's the guard's fault she is dead if that makes sense. It would've never been the guard's fault if she was just a normal person that didn't do drugs. (I didn't read the story fully, people said she was drunk and took drugs. Then the man let the train go while she was still at it. So I'm saying it from that point of view)

[zwind]

I feel that any death that is accidental from intoxication should not be blamed on others. It was not the guard's responsibility to make sure the girl was not drunk. His job was to signal the train to go. It is the girls fault for drinking. I get the wrong stop, but why try to get back in after the doors are shut?