Stop and think - and you will realise that banning guns is a waste of time

[iAdam]

There is no decent reason for a member of the public to own a gun. Use for sport should be controlled and limited.

The crap that America spew about it being a constitutional right is ridiculous. It's also a right for people to feel safe. I would not feel safe knowing that anybody I meet in the street could have a concealed device that is designed to kill a person. It's absolutely ridiculously to advocate public gun licensing.

[dbgtz]

Interesting that you bring up mental health, yet are a big advocate of legalising or relaxing drug laws.

Haven't some drugs been proven to benefit mental health... Either way, I'm not sure how drug laws are anything to do with guns.

And if the staff had a gun they could shoot the ******* dead as soon as he got off the first shot.

they could shoot

could

Yes and alternatively they could be shot down before they even get a chance to defend themself.

I don't get why you bring up the same crap over and over again when you get defeated on the point. Infact, I can't even be bothered with this whole topic when you just ignore what everyone puts.

[peteyt]

If you want to ban guns to protect people then thats fine, but that also compels you to look at regulating or banning many other areas of social life - from all kinds of sex to pornography, from violent games to fast food, from fast cars to dangerous sports. If you think you know best then by all means, start campaigning to have a range of things banned.

Sorry but when did pornography kill anyone? Well obviously sex can lead to STI's but most people these days use protection. It's not like someone goes around shooting their STI's at people for the sake of it. And violence in video games? There's no proof it effects anyone. Usually the people supposedly influenced by stuff on TV e.g. the kid who killed his mother in a similar way to Coronation Street's John Stape, well he was messed up from the beginning and would have flipped anyway's eventually.

The thing is all the things mentioned have proper uses. Cars can kill, and lots of accidents happen, but guns don't really have a purpose other than to kill.

[IceNineKills]

If you want to ban guns to protect people then thats fine, but that also compels you to look at regulating or banning many other areas of social life - from all kinds of sex to pornography, from violent games to fast food, from fast cars to dangerous sports. If you think you know best then by all means, start campaigning to have a range of things banned.

Banning Pornography, fast food, violents games etc doesn't have the same affect as someone with a real gun. I personally think that you're talking complete rubbish here.

Sure, guns were invited to kill but it's not the gun that kills someone, it's the person holding the gun. Even if America was to have a gun law brought into place, I really doubt anything will chance for such a long time. They have been allowed guns for far too long and the amount in circulation is far greater than many other countries. It just annoys me that so many people have had to die for the american government to even think of chaning the law this far on.

I am completely for America to have some sort of gun law but I really don't think it will do much good for another 15-30 years.

But even if they did crack down on guns, if someone wanted to kill someone, they would find something else to use. As stated in the original first post, a country will not bad kitchen knives even though many peple use them to kill. America has been the same way with guns and I really can't see them changing their ways at all.

[FiftyCal]

Gun Control works great, just ask Hitler and the holocaust victims.

[Kardan]

Gun Control works great, just ask Hitler and the holocaust victims.

Just because Hitler was for something, doesn't mean it's automatically bad/evil/doesn't work.

In that case we should ban vegetarianism, motorways and the olympic torch relay.

[FiftyCal]

Just because Hitler was for something, doesn't mean it's automatically bad/evil/doesn't work.

In that case we should ban vegetarianism, motorways and the olympic torch relay.

I am speaking for the United States because our government is pretty corrupt as it is so there is a fine example of how things could turn out. If they want to ban guns, the government should be the complete role model and be the first ones to disarm themselves. If you guys think disarming good citizens is the way to go, you might as well start disarming police officers.

[Kardan]

I am speaking for the United States because our government is pretty corrupt as it is so there is a fine example of how things could turn out. If they want to ban guns, the government should be the complete role model and be the first ones to disarm themselves. If you guys think disarming good citizens is the way to go, you might as well start disarming police officers.

And I'm speaking for the UK

For the US, obviously I'd feel it would be better if guns were banned, but the issue is that you already have guns. Asking everyone to hand in their guns is not only logistically a nightmare, but it wouldn't work. And even if you theoretically consider that the majority of people did hand their guns in, crime would probably increase in the US since criminals now know that people aren't armed. The UK and US are different in this case, so I can understand that it's very difficult for the US to change their laws, and I honestly don't expect them too, despite the recent outcry.

The UK however has no reason to bring in guns.

[FiftyCal]

And I'm speaking for the UK

For the US, obviously I'd feel it would be better if guns were banned, but the issue is that you already have guns. Asking everyone to hand in their guns is not only logistically a nightmare, but it wouldn't work. And even if you theoretically consider that the majority of people did hand their guns in, crime would probably increase in the US since criminals now know that people aren't armed. The UK and US are different in this case, so I can understand that it's very difficult for the US to change their laws, and I honestly don't expect them too, despite the recent outcry.

The UK however has no reason to bring in guns.

This is what I've been trying to say all along! If it makes people feel better, they already have gun turn in booths and you get $200 cash for each gun you turn in.

[peteyt]

I am speaking for the United States because our government is pretty corrupt as it is so there is a fine example of how things could turn out. If they want to ban guns, the government should be the complete role model and be the first ones to disarm themselves. If you guys think disarming good citizens is the way to go, you might as well start disarming police officers.

Then wouldn't you then complain when the government got attacked and couldn't protect you. It annoys me that people who complain about the army and so on usually are the people who would complain if we lost because we didn't have a force to protect us.