Whenever I post my Rare Values (although I'm not official staff), I always take averages and do the mathematical equasions :p (Yes, I use a calculator because I'm not that good with maths :p).
One of my standard Rare Value Reports would consist of The Furni in question, How much it changed, and then the most important part : The Proof.
The proof is the hardest part of the job if your just randomly posting rubbish values, but if you post values that are actually being used in Habbo it should be no problem.
For rare values proof, I usually take astleast 2-3 screenshots of trade rooms of habbos saying how much they are selling for etc, followed by a console message of how much people are buying this certain object for, etc.
Once I've collected some random samples and console screenshots, I usually then do an average and submit it in the Report Rare Values sectionI do my values as unbiased and accurate as possible
~MW
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03-09-2005, 04:34 PM #21MazeWizard Guest
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Originally Posted by MazeWizard
Whenever I post my Rare Values (although I'm not official staff), I always take averages and do the mathematical equasions :p (Yes, I use a calculator because I'm not that good with maths :p).
One of my standard Rare Value Reports would consist of The Furni in question, How much it changed, and then the most important part : The Proof.
The proof is the hardest part of the job if your just randomly posting rubbish values, but if you post values that are actually being used in Habbo it should be no problem.
For rare values proof, I usually take astleast 2-3 screenshots of trade rooms of habbos saying how much they are selling for etc, followed by a console message of how much people are buying this certain object for, etc.
Once I've collected some random samples and console screenshots, I usually then do an average and submit it in the Report Rare Values section I do my values as unbiased and accurate as possible
~MW
And that's the way you should be doing it. Then once all of those reports are submitted someone needs to sit down with a calculator the same way you have done and come up with the proper mathematical average. The values on the Habbox page are not calculated in that way. There is 1 person responsible for making the final change on the value page and that value is just a mere assumption of what the person feels is should be listed as based on skimming / briefly reading the reports of valuers, then coming up with their own average in their head based on the few reports they viewed.
Habbox is an unregulated stock market for Habbo Hotel. Sulake would probably never post official rare values because that could get them into trouble in the future considering the fact they like to claim that rares do not techincally have any value. If I am correct, I notice that official Habbo Fansites do not display values on their sites for what is probably a fairly complicated reason.
I personally think that people would be better off if there were no rare values to reference to. Common sense should control the market instead of Habbox.
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Excuse me that's very stupid of you to say "It's complete nonsense that we need to improve or anything like that" ofcourse you need to improve, and with an attitude like that you're not going to get anywhere. 90%+ people use Habbox's rare values as not many others are even fully up, nor are they updated very often - however you cannot say Habbox doesn't influence the values at all. Originally Posted by sierk
I remember a while ago parasols took a very high increase like 1 purple parasol was a couple of thrones, everyone followed that, the next day Habbox lowered it again, it went down just like that.
Habbox rare values are most used but you can NEVER say there is nothing to improve, EVERYTHING on Habbox can be improved someway or another.
By the way, I agree with TheUnspoken.
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I dislike habbox and the way the do their values.
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Why!!! we try very hard, im constantly doing over 40+ reports every week!!!!
DONT YOU DARE SAY WE DO OUR VALUES WRONG!
:| if you wanna do better than try, ull find out how hard it is!
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There is too much influence on the market from Habbox. I guarantee you that if Habbox was not displaying values the Throne would not currently be trading for 20 hcs. When the general population of users see the throne go from 19 hcs to 19.1 they immediately start thinking that the rare is going up and will continue to offer more.
I am 100% sure that I myself was almost fully responsible for the throne beginning it's subsequent rise from 17 hcs to the 20 hcs that it climaxed at. The way I find that I was responsible for that I am not disclosing at this time although I will eventually tell people how I managed to do it.
Shadow, it's not very hard to make a post containing values and I know because I make alot of posts daily. The amount of posts people are making has no bearing on the values, firstly they need a higher amount of input to make calculations and the amount of input used to determine a rares value is currently very, very low.
If I am correct the Disco sign was placed on the rare values page within the first hour of it being released and that is definately not enough time to calculate what the value of it is. That one instance speaks for itself, everyone was going around trading them and the value was posted way to fast in order for it to have actually held an accurate value. The disco value was changed within minutes while I remember the DJ deck listed at 7 thrones for a few days and during those few days I was able to get them for 2-3 thrones so why was that one left at 7 thrones when the disco was changed quite rapidly. Should have been the other way around........
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We can say whatever we want, thanks. Originally Posted by Shadowrock!
Some of the values are incorrect, some only just correct and some are way off.
FOR EXAMPLE:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...702#post763702
Read the last few comments, decks arn't worth 2 T anymore.
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omg
so just cuz a few ppl think our rares are wrong means we have to change it all?
the world doesent revolve around you!
we do have lives ourself. We have alot of work 2 do and we do it. We all reported that the dj deck was lower than 2T it wasnt changed.
We all report pretty much everything what you are all saying, but our values werent changed.
Show some respect to us for gods sake, We sit here doing jobs for YOU!
And all you ppl do is jobs that earn you money!
so dont go on about how lazy we are cuz we dont think your values are correct.
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Originally Posted by Shadowrock!
Do you not understand that I have worked for the rare values department on 2 seperate occasions? Are you telling us to not voice our opinions? Who said anything about anyone being lazy? It's an issue of competence and respect and no one is personally blaming anyone for these events in this thread. Resolutions to problems are often made through debate and the pointing out of problems or inconsistencies. Why complain about what I or anyone else says when they are our opinions?
The department is not being managed to it's fullest capability. There are alot of unfair circumstances that affect other people where Habbox could've been more helpful by doing things in a different manner. If you ask me on my personal opinion, it would be that the whole rare value department of Habbox should be shut down for a certain amount of time to allow the values to be be determined by the general public instead of influenced by a fansite.
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Well then you obviously arn't listening to what people are saying - ITS HIGHER THAN 2 T, NOT LOWER. And if it wern't lowered (if it was going lower) even if you did report it to be, then that means SOMEONE isn't doing their job if it wasn't changed. Originally Posted by Shadowrock!
Why should we respect you? What exactly do you do? Are you creating a cure for diseases? NO. You're sitting at a computer screen in trade rooms going Originally Posted by Shadowrock!
"OFFA ME 9.954873473757548483905005439.5 FOR MEH DUCKZ PLZ!111"
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