Habbox International Side

[Ms.Aquamarine]

HxHD aren't even TRYING to get International people in so your point for HxHD is completely invalid.

As far as I'm aware events and HabboxLive are the only two departments that are stressing out about the fact that they have no one in the department for international people.

I think you need to question why aren't there people in the Help Desk at 5am when we have 2 international managers running it - something that wasn't allowed years ago

I'm not that type of person to get all stressed about things, I like to stay calm and focused because it helps me do what I need to and take things a step at a time - not throw everything in all at once. Right now, myself, Erin, and Zahz are focusing on an idea for our staff to continue enjoying their job in HxHD. We don't want them to sit back there every week being bored while doing their hours and having no fun in their job - we want it to be more enjoyable! So that is the focus for now, but no worries - we will get to the international side soon (you can read below). Making sure that all our current staff is alright and liking their job is important to us. If there is something upsetting them in the department or whatever there is - we want to turn that around and give them that "brighter" light.

Anyways, when we opened applications last time (about two months ago) in order to gain more applicants in the international side, we were constantly advertising in order to get more non-BSTers and also asking plenty of international users if they would like to apply. We kept trying and trying - and guess what - it worked. That's because we also worked as a team in order to so. I was extremely proud with the outcome. We had plenty of non-UK staff apply and a really good amount actually received the job and did the work they were supposed to do while in the department. Unfortunately, the number has declined to about one/two and recently we have not been very active in the international side, but when we open applications again we are definitely going to have give the same push we did last time. edit: Also, we have international users who we have noticed helping users out at late nights and we will definitely bring them in, we haven't forgot about them!

The Help Desk has had users at 5am BST, but recently again it hasn't been the case. Although the desk won't always be full at 5am or late in the morning, the best we can continue doing is to try and increase the amount in there.

The key here is team work and advertisement, which myself and Erin constantly tell our staff to do and that's what would be beneficial for everyone as a whole. Things aren't going to be perfect, but if we just simply work together and advertise each part of habbox around habbo on a day-to-day basis, then it will be a big boost for the international side and will give this fansite a much better atmosphere.

[Samantha]

Not being funny either, but I also believe once the non international side is sorted the other side may fit into place a bit more. I'm currently listening to HabboxLive and really I just want to tune out, the DJ has repeated Matt's name about 5 times when it's in the DJ says, they aren't really bothering doing anything else, they keep hedging and just using filled pauses as they literally don't know what to say. I'm just finding it a bit boring, whereas other DJs usually on at peak times or even not in peak times, keeps you interested and actually want to be on air.

[taint]

There are currently no plans to hire international managers. I've just recently had this debate with Jade and I know she disagrees with my stance on this but beyond the rhetoric, I am just not convinced and think there are a few assumptions about them that do not add up.

International managers will bring in international people

If this were true then the Habbox Help Desk should, in theory, have more international members of staff as the manager is American and the assistant manager is Australian so that covers all those timezones. They currently have 1 non-UK member of staff. If it's not the title then it's something else.

Other fansites have them

If other fansites have them and they have a more active international presence, this means it's worked and we should introduce them too. However, it's not necessarily proof that it's that factor that contributed to that success. There could be a whole variety of factors involved in that success and it's not apparent how much international managers actually contribute (I will expand on this in the point below).

Action only comes from the top

This is the clincher for me. You say we need a leader. My question is, does a genuine/good leader need a title to lead? I am against hiring international managers because I do not think they are the solution. The solution is empowerment. For example, you say that it's embarrassing to DJ to 10 listeners. I've always wondered why it's seemingly the job of management to boost your listeners. Of course, that's what management do but they can't do it alone. I believe this is a grassroots issue. To get more international members, we need our international staff on the ground, showing the Habbos on at the times that those from the UK can't reach just what a great fansite we are. If you only have 10 listeners, what are you personally doing to increase them? You don't need any management, international or otherwise, to get yourself involved with Habbo. You don't need any management, international or otherwise, for you to show leadership qualities. We don't want to hire managers who can become leaders, we want to hire managers who've shown they can already lead, who can show us creativity and what they've done to help improve the departments they work in even though it's above and beyond simple minimums. Instead of waiting around for someone else to take charge, I challenge you to lead the charge, regardless of your official title (for example, I've been informed that Grig has recently brought in several international DJs despite only being a Head DJ and not having a management title and I imagine he would do the same even if he was just a radio DJ because that's just who he is). Only then will we see improvement*. It seems to me that people stop themselves from taking charge because they automatically assume that management would stop them when it is actually a management's dream come true that someone would organise an event off their own back, for example.

*I should probably point out that compared to a year ago, both events and HxL have seen a vast improvement in covering international times. Events, for example, used to stop at 10pm and you could guarantee there wouldn't be another one until at least 11am.

Well im sorry, how the heck are you assistant general manager if you don't want to bring in something which will help the current management do a better job? Most of the management here are EU, which is UNITED KINGDOM to you. If you want your management to strive forward and to bring in better things for the department then you need an International side to keep the events active, radio alive and even the forum. I see people here having issues with this and the strength they do things cause their up all night trying to make sure each department have the best possible staff going, with the radio...

Mark and Jade can't stop on all night to manage the department to make sure its running smooth without a hitch and members of the department are booking up to keep the radio alive, alongside this between 07:00 - 12:00 the radio goes offline due to no Oceania members (Australians, Philippines etc..) to keep the radio alive, Jade comes to me all the time to ask me to help her with finding her members as she can't stay on all night to find these people, Jade has university and that sure comes before a fansite, and for the radio to strive forward International management is the way forward. @Grig is one of the best managers i have seen for a while, and i know this due to working with him at ClubHabbo and due to grig being from Hong Kong he will be able to come on when Jade goes to bed, and he will be able to go to bed when Jade is rising from her pit.

International is the best possible way to bring each department with more structure and more members to join the team, Habbox is slowly fading away and the current management members are trying everything they can to bring it into the times. If the site wasn't so outdated you would understand the meaning of bringing Habbox into the 21st century not the 20th.

I would consider that you need to start thinking about what you actually want from Habbox, do you want it to slowly fail and go into the gutter? Or strive forward and push other fansites out of the water again where they struggle to gain the community.

HxHD aren't even TRYING to get International people in so your point for HxHD is completely invalid.

As far as I'm aware events and HabboxLive are the only two departments that are stressing out about the fact that they have no one in the department for international people. We have a few and yes people have been pushing for it. But if they have been pushing and if they have been coming up with these ideas then they deserve full recognition to further there potentional instead of being stuck in a position where they cannot do a whole load of things that myself and Mark can do. Effectively when we reach capacity we will have 25 international DJs without the guidance and leadership of a manager in their timezone. So therefore effectively those 25 people will be receiving nothing except for something from a Head DJ. I'm sure I am right in saying the majority of my DJs like to come to myself or Mark in regards to a lot of their issues and it is not fair on them to not have immediate feedback from management because GM physically don't want to get out of the stone ages and focus on something that could be done to improve it. It isn't about a title it is about giving people a CHANCE to make a change and to do something so that we will ACTUALLY be achieving something like the other fansites are. It irritates me to think that you really think Habbox should stay structured as it is and you cannot see the benefits from going global rather than focusing on our EU community how about you actually focus on the community as a WHOLE. Because from where I am coming from anyone outside of Europe gains NOTHING.

When Gemma was here we had WAY MORE international presence than we had UK and THAT WAS COMING FROM THE TOP not from the bottom or a Head DJ. That just highlights the fact that if there is someone focused on those times, granted that the EU was bad under her, it proves that someone focusing on those timezones FROM THOSE TIMEZONES in a management position actually helps. Having three managements, one on EU, one on Int and one as an overall will make it tonnes easier for us and will make it tonnes better in way of community and in way of staffing.



Pretty spot on to be honest.

PREACH IT SISTER, YOU GO JADE. I LOVE YOU BABEH xxx

[Mr-Trainor]

I don't have a strong opinion on this as some other people do, but thought I'd point out what I feel could be a problem. If you're opening applications specifically for international users, lets just use an example; Habbox Live. I personally don't listen to HxL but just using it as an example; if no one is on air during times which are more active for international users from certain areas and these international users see that no one is on air with no listeners, then surely most people wouldn't bother applying? Especially if there's other fansites which are more focused on their time zone.

Lets look at Events as another example, there was no events today before 10am. Therefore international users looking for events to go to wouldn't have seen any Habbox events and judging by the previous posts, HxHD may have been empty too. If there's nothing advertising Habbox during these times then you can't expect international users to find you. What I'm saying might have made no sense but oh well .

[lawrawrrr]

the problem is you can't magically make international djs appear, we don't have that many internationals on the forum so it's no surprise this is reflected in the staff load.

I would agree it'd be nice though and international managers, who can actually socialise with people at AUS or NZ or USA-heavy times: that would probably help get more international people all round.

anyway that might have been said I haven't read most of the thread. soz.

[xxMATTGxx]

I would say if a department has a decent amount of International staff and is growing and improving on that site then it might be time to look into a person who would be able to manage those people during the times they are active on Habbox. If that makes sense?

[ihatehash]

I was pushing for a whole growth in the international management in 2009. Whilst habbox has grown steadily internationally since then I don't feel like it has experienced the same international growth as it could have. Maybe that is due to the lack of international management and perhaps putting some effort in to making the radio more welcoming for international users at the international times may help bring in more listeners. I too have preferred listening to other stations that cater to australian/nz listeners as the shows are usually more interactive and as a dj I have found aus/nz listeners get more involved even if there is less of them.

[sex]

i willl be international GM since im not from uk @xxMATTGxx;



i agree with the OP ive said it so much!!!!!!!!!!

[Jurv]

i've not read the thread but departments need more interaction with the habbo community if they're looking hire people from different timezones imo

there's no point advertising applications to the same people all the time, it might be an idea to get on habbo and actually ask people if they're interested somehow

[Foregetfuhl]

i've not read the thread but departments need more interaction with the habbo community if they're looking hire people from different timezones imo

there's no point advertising applications to the same people all the time, it might be an idea to get on habbo and actually ask people if they're interested somehow

Just been doing this giveaway and had over 10 people approach me about becoming DJ