You are one of very few people on this forum who actually know what they are talking about in regards to suicide (with @FlyingJesus; being another off the top of my head), I haven't said at any point that people shouldn't attempt to be helped/stopped in this thread it was one of the first things I said and it appears to be outright ignored.
I don't see how people can't understand persuasion of others only goes so far, it can help a great deal but it is down to personal choice and if someone commits suicide you don't turn around and go "how pathetic" cause that is sick and wrong on every moral ground.






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