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    Not trying to defend her, but what's the difference between abortion and killing a baby the minute it's born. They both had about the same experience of life, just seems a bit hypocritical for people to say abortion is fine but this is wrong.

    However, she might have been raped or anything, we don't know all the facts. Also, there could be a number of reasons why she hid the pregnancy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by XxZammyXx View Post
    First of all 14 years old having a kid is quite young and at that age they are most likely not mature enough.
    Seeing this makes me grossed out. If you want to have sex without protection, take the consequences....the child didn't ask to be born and be killed afterwards!! Personally there are quite sick people in this world and this girl should go to jail for murderer and take the consequences that she deserved!!
    yeah cause contraception is 100% effective.. & about '14' is too young, 14 is only too young cause kids are taught to be kids and irresponsible all through their early teens, wasn't always that way, people have been having kids as young as that since the world began and still do in some culture. kids are only immature because they aren't taught responsibility. I think ive had the same mindset and maturity since i was 15, so not far off 14, + could been capable of looking after a child at that age

    says in that article her mum knew there was something off with her, if that was the case she should have confronted her.... but then fj says she told her mum she miscarried? dk why she had to lie about it guess she thought was best to just get rid of the baby rather than have it and give up for adoption
    @gibs660; abortion is different though, they aren't fully developed or old enough to live if they were to come out the mothers body, a full term baby can survive on its own for a bit or with adopted parents...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibs960 View Post
    Not trying to defend her, but what's the difference between abortion and killing a baby the minute it's born. They both had about the same experience of life, just seems a bit hypocritical for people to say abortion is fine but this is wrong.

    However, she might have been raped or anything, we don't know all the facts. Also, there could be a number of reasons why she hid the pregnancy.
    If you take a group of cells after they've been fertilised and see if they survive on their own in the outside world, they won't. A baby can. That's why people have issues with the current abortion limit in the UK, because babies aborted at 23/24 weeks *can* survive, although with a lot of help.

    Early abortions are in no way comparable to a new born baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    If you take a group of cells after they've been fertilised and see if they survive on their own in the outside world, they won't. A baby can. That's why people have issues with the current abortion limit in the UK, because babies aborted at 23/24 weeks *can* survive, although with a lot of help.

    Early abortions are in no way comparable to a new born baby.
    I'm sorry but this is kinda a load of bull. A baby can't survive for long on its own.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibs960 View Post
    I'm sorry but this is kinda a load of bull. A baby can't survive for long on its own.
    And your proof of this is where?

    There was a case in America where a newborn was left, and it took him 7 days to die. I'd like to see a group of cells do that, there is clearly a difference between a newly fertilised egg, and a new born baby.

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    7 days. And you think those 7 days were enjoyable for that baby? You're speaking through your arse. I don't need proof to say that a baby wouldn't survive long in the wild.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibs960 View Post
    7 days. And you think those 7 days were enjoyable for that baby? You're speaking through your arse. I don't need proof to say that a baby wouldn't survive long in the wild.
    There's also many cases that babies survived 7 days in the Mexico City earthquake... And of course the 7 days weren't enjoyable for the baby, but how is that relevant to the discussion?

    I'm giving you evidence for my side of the story, where's the evidence for your side? Let me repeat again, there is a significant difference between a newly fertilised group of cells, and a new born baby. Anyone that says otherwise, is blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibs960 View Post
    7 days. And you think those 7 days were enjoyable for that baby? You're speaking through your arse. I don't need proof to say that a baby wouldn't survive long in the wild.
    SURVIVE IN THE WILD

    IM SCREAMING


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    Quote Originally Posted by subo View Post
    SURVIVE IN THE WILD

    IM SCREAMING


    The troll who isn't funny returns. What else would you call it? Oh, I forgot that you have limited vocabulary.

    You're providing evidence to say that a baby can survive in the wild, that wasn't what I said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibs960 View Post
    The troll who isn't funny returns. What else would you call it? Oh, I forgot that you have limited vocabulary.

    You're providing evidence to say that a baby can survive in the wild, that wasn't what I said.
    u completely missed the point of wat he said and u r embarrassing urself

    no1 cares that a baby cant survive "in the wild" that is completely irrelevant to the discussion of whether a ball of cells can survive out of the body or a ******* newborn healthy baby

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