Labour heartlands under attack as Ukip launches it's biggest ever campaign in north

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Everything you've just said literally reiterates my point of us having more of a say in that out. We do not have a voice if we leave, and will likely have to abide EU laws either way.

So you haven't taken anything in I have just written, have you? I said very clearly that it is true that British companies exporting to the EU will still have to abide by EU regulations but that's the same for Russian, American, Algerian, Saudi, Chinese and Indian producers who export to the EU. The difference that getting out of the EU in terms of consumer regulations is that the UK outside of the EU would have more flexibility in terms of domestic consumption, ie we could completely remove tariffs on African agricultural goods which is something that the highly protectionist French would never permit within the EU framework/trade policy.

This scenario would put us in roughly the same position as every other country on the planet.

I'm not so sure why you think we can waltz in and get a Switzerland setup. If anything, we would end up with a deal similar to Norway as I sincerely doubt the EU will let us have our cake and eat it too, which is exactly what Switzerland is doing at the moment.

Our economy is much bigger than the Swiss economy, giving us more negotiating power.

How are these articles relevant to you claiming "Look at the schools where they have to teach in NINE different languages."? All I see is articles discussing bilingual students.

I see articles which show that in schools across this country now as well as homes and communities, English is being sidelined in our own country and cultural and language ghettos are springing up. I care deeply about social cohesion. It's important.

Does people speaking other languages besides English scare you? Such a trivial point it's ridiculous.

It does actually, yes. One of the key features of a country and being a human being in a community means being able to interact with one another as well as the obvious fact too that language shapes culture. It scares me that in many areas around this country, people are not talking with one another or are talking in their own languages and living in their own seperate ethnic/cultural groups... in other words, ghettoisation is taking place. And I fear where and what that will lead to.

I wouldn't like to live in an area where I could not understand anybody. I speak English, I want to feel like i'm in England. My home.

I think it's just a case of there not being a need for them to rather than them covering up some grand conspiracy.

Or maybe the figures the former head of the unit states are true but are deemed too 'politically sensitive' to release?

Why are you so afraid of working with the rest of Europe? I've not had the chance to say it before but it seems your romanticised idea of Great Britain in it's 'golden days' is responsible for your hatred of the EU (Judging from your posts around the forum, not this particular thread). *Getting all freudian on you*

Where have I advocated that we not work with the rest of Europe? I was a huge fan of NATO during the Cold War which saw us working with our Atlantic and European allies, and I am a huge fan today of the Commonwealth where we have a forum with our colonial cousins. I'm also a fan of the World Trade Organisation (WTO) as a force for liberalising trade hence why I want Britain to leave the EU and thus retake her seat on that important body which gives us a top seat at the world table. I am for intergovernmentalism, but against supranationalism.

And yes, I do love my country. What's wrong with that?

Of course, we're always going to disagree because you're extremely nationalistic and we have such opposing beliefs, but in a globalised world where african countries are banding together, south american countries as well, the UK will not remain a global player for much longer.

But that's just rhetoric. I have already given you evidence how Britain is the only European country expected to remain in the top 10 global economies by 2050, I could go on about how Britain's close links with her former colonies along with the Commonwealth could see us taking huge advantage of the growing Asian economies by signing FTAs with them - something we can only do by leaving the EU. I could also point to the City of London, which is miles ahead of any other financial centre in the world thanks to our Anglo-Saxon instinct of free trade with far away places. You call me nationalistic, but i'm the optimistic one - you seem to think that our future is being forever chained to a shrinking part of the global economy.

Europe however, has potential to be a major powerhouse and I want to remain part of it.

You want a federal Europe with the abolition of our sovereignty, don't you? Why not just have the guts to come out and say it?