Teacher stabbed to death at Leeds school

[Brad]

It's lack of discipline. I would bring back corporal punishment in schools tomorrow - and I would have got caned a fair few times.

Awful story, RIP to the teacher.

I totally agree. Discipline is so far gone it's not even funny anymore. A parent can't even discipline their child anymore without it being reported to Child Services or something ridiculous like that.

It is quite a sad story, the amount of shootings/stabbings in the past year and a half in America is shocking.

[The Don]

It's lack of discipline. I would bring back corporal punishment in schools tomorrow - and I would have got caned a fair few times.

Awful story, RIP to the teacher.

A lack of discipline doesn't make somebody murder someone over being told they can't have a cigarette.

[-:Undertaker:-]

A lack of discipline doesn't make somebody murder someone over being told they can't have a cigarette.

Well actually it does, just as it leads to children becoming a part of the criminal class. If children are not taught to respect authority and do as they are told, then the cycle becomes worse and as they get older they'll get worse. That's why so many of the kids in school you knew who were little horrors tend to turn out to be criminals when they leave school, and then end up in prison. Nobody's ever had the guts to tell them no and come down on them like a shower of bricks: not the primary school teachers, not the high school teachers, not the parents and not the law.

If you have no respect for your teachers or school, then you'll later in life have no respect for the Police or the law.

[The Don]

Well actually it does, just as it leads to children becoming a part of the criminal class. If children are not taught to respect authority and do as they are told, then the cycle becomes worse and as they get older they'll get worse. That's why so many of the kids in school you knew who were little horrors tend to turn out to be criminals when they leave school, and then end up in prison. Nobody's ever had the guts to tell them no and come down on them like a shower of bricks: not the primary school teachers, not the high school teachers, not the parents and not the law.

If you have no respect for your teachers or school, then you'll later in life have no respect for the Police or the law.

Yeh I agree that a lack of discipline is bad, but to stab somebody multiple times for such a trivial reason is obviously down to other issues besides the lack of discipline. Definitely some mental health issues going on there...

[Bankai90]

Kids these days, already commiting crime at a young age. The 61 year old teacher do a good thing btw, preventing an underage from smoking. Just wondering, is she asking that boy nicely or in an angry tone? Just curious as the boy end up stabbed her to death.

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[e5]

Kids these days, already commiting crime at a young age. The 61 year old teacher do a good thing btw, preventing an underage from smoking. Just wondering, is she asking that boy nicely or in an angry tone? Just curious as the boy end up stabbed her to death.

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As said, it's only what I've read from my peers on facebook. Nothing is confirmed. For all we know, she was telling him off and he didn't like it.

[Kardan]

It's lack of discipline. I would bring back corporal punishment in schools tomorrow - and I would have got caned a fair few times.

Awful story, RIP to the teacher.

How would corporal punishment stop someone being stabbed?

[Zak]

It's lack of discipline. I would bring back corporal punishment in schools tomorrow - and I would have got caned a fair few times.

Awful story, RIP to the teacher.

Don't you think though that if teachers did start caning students in schools now that the student is more inclined to attack back?

and this will cause more problems in the long run?

[GommeInc]

I was threatened with a knife by kids in my school year, we were 13.

Christ Most I had was in Year 7 when puberty was kicking in someone thought it would be amazing to share the good news he had hair in certain areas and show it off.

Not sure what the best solution is for children. It's not necessarily just a school problem. You do not want strict teachers as not everyone will learn from someone whose face looks like it is going to explode. One to one chats seemed to work but I haven't seen the latest system in play.

Don't you think though that if teachers did start caning students in schools now that the student is more inclined to attack back?

and this will cause more problems in the long run?

Indeed, it happened recently when a teacher used self-defence to hold down a pupil. The cane worked in last century, but it seems incredibly out of date in this millennium.

[Zak]

Indeed, it happened recently when a teacher used self-defence to hold down a pupil. The cane worked in last century, but it seems incredibly out of date in this millennium.

Yeh that's exactly what I was thinking though I know what he's trying to get at.

Was the teacher allowed to do that? From how I understand it putting your hands on a pupil in anyway is a no-no.