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    The events manager is the same, the comps manager is the same. They're the two basic ones you got to get right. everyone else is just decoration. hxl can play a key role in their comps but as they're spontaneous and not necessarily pre-planned, it doesn't even need a consistent manager to mention it. Aside from HxHD who could've planned something (although I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and say zebbadi wasn't working on anything), the other management changes of the last month would have no effect on the tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfish View Post
    Postponement of world cup events allows habbox to keep up with birthday week and put a bit more planning and hype behind the world cup tournament. Many staff (AND USERS) are finishing up with exams and preparing for summer so it would be illogical to put on event when you know that staff aren't going to be able to host and users aren't going to be available to turn up. The first day of the world cup thing I think there were 2 events and the next day I only saw 1. People weren't turning up -- presumably because they were't fully aware of what was going on -- so it's probably postponed to allow for some time for everybody to get in the know.

    forum birthday week is still ongoing.
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    Anyways, we're not even half way through the world cup are we? Plenty of time left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inseriousity. View Post
    The events manager is the same, the comps manager is the same. They're the two basic ones you got to get right. everyone else is just decoration. hxl can play a key role in their comps but as they're spontaneous and not necessarily pre-planned, it doesn't even need a consistent manager to mention it. Aside from HxHD who could've planned something (although I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and say zebbadi wasn't working on anything), the other management changes of the last month would have no effect on the tournament.
    I actually planned to do a world cup tournament within in the desk, but then sam planned something bigger. For the birthday had events throughout the day planned a sleepover and a special SNQ. Why wouldn't I have anything planned? I actually give a crap, hence why i stepped down.


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    Unless you thought of a different idea when you found out sam was doing that then you didn't really have anything planned for this
    Although if you did, it still would've just been decoration/extra so the main point of that argument still holds.

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    It was my suggestion to postpone the event because not as much as been planned and passed on to staff members. Sam did post a thread and there was some discussion about it (this was just before I went away I think, maybe just after when I was still relatively active) but because there was so many other things to focus on, including other big events, like the Birthday which multiple departments took part in.

    It's unfair you're blaming Sam because like I said, she did start planning this way in advance, then the managers she was planning it with left. If we go with the "excuse" that HabboxLive lost it's manager who had been planning it and focus on the others: Forum have done something for it, comps have been publishing world-cup themed competitions, events, well you'd have to ask the events manager about that.

    I particularly noticed this post:

    I can't remember off the top of my head but every single month you's fail to do something, whether it's attend a meeting, get something planned properly, get it out on time, ask another fansite not to publish a guide etc.

    Do you do anything right?
    We couldn't help the meeting (been through this), we took your suggestions on board and asked if we could send a normal manager instead of an AGM... which we were told we could, so we did. The middle two have been FINE recently, Memorial Day and Fathers Day both went completely to plan, on time (but of course I understand how easy it is to forget the things we do, and do well) and I have explained multiple times about the Box not coming out on time, there was literally absolutely zero, nada, no other option. For the guides point, I believe we've deliberately made the decision to allow fansites to post guides (I definitely argued for that for Memorial Day anyway) because if you say NO GUIDES then they may not even post a "this event exists" - who cares if a few people cheat? If they want to, let them.





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    It's interesting to see that members of General Management are trying to pass the blame on the resignation or removal of Departmental Manager's from their positions. That shouldn't really be a problem. Even though the manager has left the event all the plans are still there, are they not? It should just take the next Department Manager to step in, get briefed by the member of General Management who is overseeing the whole event (who should know all the goings on anyway, without the need of the Department Managers - just in case something goes wrong, e.g. if the manager falls ill or resigns, in these cases) and then it should be good to go?

    Forgive me, I've not actually thoroughly read the whole thread so I'm not 100% sure on the whole goings on, but it's kind of wrong for General Management to pass the blame. General Management should be overseeing every big event that goes on at Habbox one way or another and to let something as small as a manager resigning to get in the way is kind of silly. If they can't handle looking after all departments and run a big event, making note of everything that's going on, I can't really say they should be in their position.

    As well as this, I'm sure they shouldn't pass the blame either - even if it isn't 100% their fault. They're at almost the highest point on the hierarchy; if they can't take a few complaints on the chin and act upon them then they, again, shouldn't really be in their position. The whole "it's not me, it's the manager's and staff" attitude is bad.

    I want to note again I could be getting the complete wrong end of the stick, so I apologise profusely if I have
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    It's interesting to see that members of General Management are trying to pass the blame on the resignation or removal of Departmental Manager's from their positions. That shouldn't really be a problem. Even though the manager has left the event all the plans are still there, are they not? It should just take the next Department Manager to step in, get briefed by the member of General Management who is overseeing the whole event (who should know all the goings on anyway, without the need of the Department Managers - just in case something goes wrong, e.g. if the manager falls ill or resigns, in these cases) and then it should be good to go?

    Forgive me, I've not actually thoroughly read the whole thread so I'm not 100% sure on the whole goings on, but it's kind of wrong for General Management to pass the blame. General Management should be overseeing every big event that goes on at Habbox one way or another and to let something as small as a manager resigning to get in the way is kind of silly. If they can't handle looking after all departments and run a big event, making note of everything that's going on, I can't really say they should be in their position.
    with hxl i wasn't passed on the info about the world cup as i was assistant at the time so general management just assumed i knew which is prob more my fault than theirs however it doesn't take much planning or anything for competitions are something djs can obv just get on and do
    they don't really need to sit for ages and plan each thing out so was fine rly

    the events obv play a huge part in it and with the events manager not being here much the staff arent being pushed to host events so theyre not going to lol it wasnt really a good time anyway considering all the birthday plans and whatever so at least now they can focus on one thing then the next rather than mumbling it all together

    i asked sam and chris if i could host events because if i return to events i'll just resign and i wasnt gna be management anymore and now senior+ djs are able to do them too so should boost some more activity of events people higher up in hxl

    not much had happened for the world cup anyway tbh (yet) like 5 events got hosted idk how many competitons, don't think anyone did hxl competitions yesterday on air so not much bad can come out of it being postponed lol
    now people can focus on hxf bday then move onto the football thingy once its over

    i believe tom odey should be back too so (hopefully) more events will be hosted

    this prob makes no sense and is likely to be completely irrelevant so if it is i do apologise n will now go back to bed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuxin View Post
    with hxl i wasn't passed on the info about the world cup as i was assistant at the time so general management just assumed i knew which is prob more my fault than theirs however it doesn't take much planning or anything for competitions are something djs can obv just get on and do
    they don't really need to sit for ages and plan each thing out so was fine rly

    the events obv play a huge part in it and with the events manager not being here much the staff arent being pushed to host events so theyre not going to lol it wasnt really a good time anyway considering all the birthday plans and whatever so at least now they can focus on one thing then the next rather than mumbling it all together

    i asked sam and chris if i could host events because if i return to events i'll just resign and i wasnt gna be management anymore and now senior+ djs are able to do them too so should boost some more activity of events people higher up in hxl

    not much had happened for the world cup anyway tbh (yet) like 5 events got hosted idk how many competitons, don't think anyone did hxl competitions yesterday on air so not much bad can come out of it being postponed lol
    now people can focus on hxf bday then move onto the football thingy once its over

    i believe tom odey should be back too so (hopefully) more events will be hosted

    this prob makes no sense and is likely to be completely irrelevant so if it is i do apologise n will now go back to bed
    I believe Tom is away for three weeks



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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I believe Tom is away for three weeks
    oh awkkk maybe not then ;p
    at least if management are stepping in they can put more focus into it
    if theyre doing birthday stuff atm then having to run events ontop prob isnt helpful along with all their other duties *

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    Why are people mentioning the birthday as if all the managers are somehow involved. By looks of things, it's just something Phil is doing and clearly he needed to co-operate with HxHD/HxL management to sort out the takeovers but once that's agreed, it's just a case of posting a thread for staff to explain it and that's their role in the matter sorted.

    I think we can all agree when there's no HxL DJs taking part, no world cup themed comps organised (well I did 1 but it was because I posted it late - oopsie - and knew there was a tournament on) and very little events (well done mainly to mdport. and gina for hosting) that postponing it was a good idea. It's more concerning that it had to even be an option in the first place when there has clearly been a huge communication problem which has nothing to do with management resigning (because out of those three, only gina resigned and that was yesterday) and more to do with general management not checking in with said managers to ensure things were prepared and once they found out it wasn't then they could a) sort it out or b) postpone without anyone even realising until it'd been sorted.

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