you're doing it again

[Chris]

Yes it is very hard, I struggled with it too. I still think it'd be more worthwhile than the awards system if more time could be spent on developing it into its original concept.

Perhaps, but I'm not willing to put any more time into it. As far as I'm concerned it's not a system thats suitable for a forum other than the automated achievements that come built into the system.

[Inseriousity.]

It was the automated achievements and dry, boring style of the achievements that killed it in the first place so I disagree with that. Creativity has never been your strongest skill. Despite that, you do at least deserve credit for putting time into it in the first place even if it does expose how uninvolved Sam is with her job.

[Chris]

It was the automated achievements and dry, boring style of the achievements that killed it in the first place so I disagree with that. Creativity has never been your strongest skill. Despite that, you do at least deserve credit for putting time into it in the first place even if it does expose how uninvolved Sam is with her job.

There is no other way of doing it as the plugin we have was only ever designed for the automated achievements that it includes.

Oh, and you can keep your backhanded comments to yourself. I can't help but laugh that you're trying to insult me and other managers that contributed to the system when all you ever did as AGM was sit there and criticise other peoples lack of creativity without ever offering any of your own.

[Inseriousity.]

I like to think I've demonstrated my own creativity enough over the years whereas you took this idea and immediately made it boring. For instance, it doesn't need a plugin to do it. Could've been organised without it.

[MKR&*42]

If a lot more time and effort had been put into a proper achievement system (much like the one actually described in the original feedback thread) instead of the rush mess we have now where you have awards/achievements/achievement awards, then it would have been an okay system. Once again a complete lack of morale and drive have ruined a half decent idea and hey itsactually an innovative one cause no other fansite does it but scrap being unique then

[Chris]

I like to think I've demonstrated my own creativity enough over the years whereas you took this idea and immediately made it boring. For instance, it doesn't need a plugin to do it. Could've been organised without it.

Well considering the amount of admin work that became necessary WITH the plugin, I really dread to think how much work would be required for it without a plugin. I'm sorry that you find the system boring, but it's impossible to conjure up a working system thats going to work on a forum. I don't work miracles I'm afraid.

If anyone here thinks they can do better then by all means come and build us a working achievements system.

[FlyingJesus]

Going into everything half baked seems to be the MO of general management of late so not entirely surprised that this (like so many good ideas from community members) was taken on only in part and not in a way that reflects the original idea at all

[Phil]

Just an input here. I much prefer the Awards system. Most people aren't really that bothered about collecting awards/achievements in the sense that I don't think that many strive to collect as many as they can to become like a Pokemon Master or somet idk, it's just a nice incentive. I'm pretty sure there's not one Achievement that couldn't just be an Award.

[Chris]

Going into everything half baked seems to be the MO of general management of late so not entirely surprised that this (like so many good ideas from community members) was taken on only in part and not in a way that reflects the original idea at all

I give up lol

Just an input here. I much prefer the Awards system. Most people aren't really that bothered about collecting awards/achievements in the sense that I don't think that many strive to collect as many as they can to become like a Pokemon Master or somet idk, it's just a nice incentive. I'm pretty sure there's not one Achievement that couldn't just be an Award.

There may be some issues with transferring some of them as they can be difficult to keep track of, but most should be good to go.

[Inseriousity.]

I think more people would be bothered if there was better incentive to do so. I think more people would be attracted to move over from Habbo into the forum and then expand into the wider community if the original idea had remained intact. There isn't one achievement that couldn't just be an award, that was the problem.

I will continue to work on it after I've finished hosting this creative event.