Woman 'beheaded' in North London

[-:Undertaker:-]

We are constantly lied to in order to save face, particularly when there is a high possibility that it is related to a religion which is finding itself spread rapidly throughout the UK.

I do not intend for this to sound racist, and I have no issue with religions people chose - but when they start implementing their rules which are accepted over our own because of the large amount of them - then I start having issues.

No, I am not saying all muslims are terrorists or extremists - but when our terrorism threat has been increased to severe - why the hell are they allowed to continue wearing Burkas which cover everything but their eyes when if you were to wear a crash helmet, hoodie and such you are asked to leave and treated like a criminal?

And the fact that they try to hide the religious background behind criminals like this to protect the people belonging to this religion, it' ridiculous.
Yes, before you say something about muslims needing protecting because they are treated unfairly because of their religion - if they don't like it then they can go somewhere that is more... muslim friendly.

Inb4racismaccusations

If I could +rep you again so soon then I would.

[Empired]

We are constantly lied to in order to save face, particularly when there is a high possibility that it is related to a religion which is finding itself spread rapidly throughout the UK.

I do not intend for this to sound racist, and I have no issue with religions people chose - but when they start implementing their rules which are accepted over our own because of the large amount of them - then I start having issues.

No, I am not saying all muslims are terrorists or extremists - but when our terrorism threat has been increased to severe - why the hell are they allowed to continue wearing Burkas which cover everything but their eyes when if you were to wear a crash helmet, hoodie and such you are asked to leave and treated like a criminal?

And the fact that they try to hide the religious background behind criminals like this to protect the people belonging to this religion, it' ridiculous.
Yes, before you say something about muslims needing protecting because they are treated unfairly because of their religion - if they don't like it then they can go somewhere that is more... muslim friendly.

Inb4racismaccusations

I do actually agree with this. I believe France won't let anyone wear any sort of religious clothing/accessory? So Christians can't even wear a cross round their neck. I think that's a much more sensible way of dealing with the problem; just saying no one can wear anything to show their religion.

What happened was horrible but I don't wanna jump to any conclusions saying why it happened because I just don't know for certain?? And neither do any of you.

[Hannah]

I do actually agree with this. I believe France won't let anyone wear any sort of religious clothing/accessory? So Christians can't even wear a cross round their neck. I think that's a much more sensible way of dealing with the problem; just saying no one can wear anything to show their religion.

What happened was horrible but I don't wanna jump to any conclusions saying why it happened because I just don't know for certain?? And neither do any of you.

We should follow in France's footsteps really, it'd be much safer and more beneficial for us - being that Muslim is our most 'active' religion which carries higher coverage of persons - there are also extremists (like in any religion) which appear to cause the biggest issues when they can escape undetected by wearing a Burka... I personally thought that would have been enough to ban anything hiding identity.

Of course we do not actually know, but it just seems like the likely option because of previous - more recent - attacks.
Obviously I could be wrong, which is why I say likely and not certainly - but we'll not know the full truth as everyone has too much to hide.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I do actually agree with this. I believe France won't let anyone wear any sort of religious clothing/accessory? So Christians can't even wear a cross round their neck. I think that's a much more sensible way of dealing with the problem; just saying no one can wear anything to show their religion.

What happened was horrible but I don't wanna jump to any conclusions saying why it happened because I just don't know for certain?? And neither do any of you.

But why should France, a Christian country, relegate her own culture and religion to that of everything else?

No, it's very simple and clear to me. If one moves to a Christian country, or an Islamic country for that matter, you must be expected to adopt or at the least respect the customs and culture of that country - and if you don't like it then move to a country that suits you better. I'm not arguing for Muslims to convert of course, and I wouldn't mind the Islamic symbol on a chain like that of a Cross - but when it comes to those ridiculous 15th century veils that they force their women to wear because the men are so insecure.... it's foul to see on western streets.

I don't ever remember this country or France being asked whether we wanted to abandon our culture/heritage and replace it with Islam/other and I don't see why France should have to pretend that her culture is equal to or worth the same as any other culture. It's damn well worth defending.

+rep anyway as I agree with the gist of your post, just thought i'd pick up on that part.

[Kardan]

We should follow in France's footsteps really, it'd be much safer and more beneficial for us - being that Muslim is our most 'active' religion which carries higher coverage of persons - there are also extremists (like in any religion) which appear to cause the biggest issues when they can escape undetected by wearing a Burka... I personally thought that would have been enough to ban anything hiding identity.

Of course we do not actually know, but it just seems like the likely option because of previous - more recent - attacks.
Obviously I could be wrong, which is why I say likely and not certainly - but we'll not know the full truth as everyone has too much to hide.

What does that mean?

[Hannah]

What does that mean?

By that I mean you will find more people actively supporting the Muslim religion than others - such as Christianity and Catholicism, etc.

[Kardan]

By that I mean you will find more people actively supporting the Muslim religion than others - such as Christianity and Catholicism, etc.

But you do realise that that is incorrect - at least in the UK?

And you do realise that Muslim isn't a religion?

[Hannah]

But you do realise that that is incorrect - at least in the UK?

And you do realise that Muslim isn't a religion?

Muslim are those who follow the set ideals and beliefs of Islam - they are those following the religion.
I'm sure you, as well as most others knew what was meant.

I don't believe there are statistics currently released since 2010/2011 to be more precise, but Christianity is certainly a dying religion in the UK while Islam continues to grow and thrive.

[Kardan]

Muslim are those who follow the set ideals and beliefs of Islam - they are those following the religion.
I'm sure you, as well as most others knew what was meant.

I don't believe there are statistics currently released since 2010/2011 to be more precise, but Christianity is certainly a dying religion in the UK while Islam continues to grow and thrive.

Indeed, but there's way way WAY more Christians in the country than Muslims.

[Hannah]

Indeed, but there's way way WAY more Christians in the country than Muslims.

How many of the said Christians actively go to church? Go on missions? Wear items of clothing representing their religion? Follow each and every rule of the Bible?

I look forward to statistics coming forward to see how much has changed - the number of Atheists has certainly grown, as well as the populace of other religions.