attention females get

[Bloop]

I've seen something before along the lines of do you think you shld be raped if u 'provoked' it by wearing suggestive clothing .-.

And no I don't think so

when my female friends go out we me they all wear rlly nice clothes *.* and obviously being the ******* I am I wld say sth abt them 'going out like this' and being ***** (I don't mean it) and they just point their finger la middle at moi lmao

Tbh just **** what other people think and the pervy old lechers

[-:Undertaker:-]

I know I'm male, but this is one of the reasons I don't go out drinking - having to put up with stupid males that literally want anything that moves. You spend the majority of your time looking out for the girls in the group.

I go out drinking and it's mainly the girls who are like that.

[scottish]

I go out drinking and it's mainly the girls who are like that.

It's certainly the complete opposite in Scotland.

[-:Undertaker:-]

It's certainly the complete opposite in Scotland.

I can imagine it depending on the places you go to really. I know in university when I am out in clubs with my friends from around Britain, it's more men looking for women where as in Liverpool the bars I go (not conventional clubs) to are more women looking for men.

[j0rd]

down here it depends what days too

friday's/saturday's is normally a penis-fest, whereas wednesday's which is student night is full of girls

[Empired]

I've had a few negative experiences in my city but they're nothing particularly important. I'm not offended I'm just uncomfortable and sometimes embarrassed. But I went out to Italy about a month ago and quite a few men tried to talk to me but I didn't find it uncomfortable at all. They would do things like let me in the queue first saying "after you, beautiful" and they would just leave it at that. Think it was different because u can tell that it was just a compliment and they weren't looking for anything at all from it.

Thought I'd share this experience because jen mentioned the public transport thing:
I have a friend who has to take a very busy bus to get to her work. It's normally so busy she has to stand and is packed in really close with other people, no room to move much or anything. Anyway she told me a few weeks ago (at this point I should mention she is 20 now, was 19 at the time) that she'd been sexually assaulted once on her morning trip back in December. She was wearing a just above the knee-length skirt with thick, wooly tights on cos it was cold and her work uniform top and a jacket. And she was standing in the aisle downstairs next to this man who was sat down. She said she felt something on her leg but that bus is so packed she assumed it was just some1 accidentally bumping into her. But then this guy who was sat down next to her started feeling right up the inside of her thigh and further. Obv couldn't get "in" (if u see what i mean :L) because she had these thick tights on but he was goin as far as he could.

And she was only 19 and had no idea what to do. So she just stood there an let him do it. No one saw cos it was so tightly packed and she was so embarrassed she had to stand still for a good few minutes doing nothing. I think she got out at the next stop and idk what happened after that but highly doubt she went into work.

She told me a few weeks ago 'cause she'd had some counselling and is alright with it now. Not 'alright' as in accepting but she can talk about it whereas she couldn't before. Now she said she wants to tell her friends just to warn us that it's ok to shout out if something like that happens.

So yh. Thought I'd share that with u all. Say something if ur feeling uncomfortable, ladies (and gents too!!!) x

[Hannah]

Meh, understandably it gets very irritating being treated like a piece of meat all the time - but surely it helps out with confidence?

I mean, I much rather having people throwing somewhat crude and sexual compliments at me than being rude or pointing out flaws.

Sure it isn't ideal, but when it isn't going too far and is causing no harm then I don't really see it as an issue.

At work I've been told some of the conversations the security guards and cleaners have about me, but as I had said to them - I don't care what you're saying about me until it's said to me and inappropriately. Of course this was said after I had to complain to my friend who manages the security team about one of their mid-fifty year olds suggesting that I should wear a low-cut top and that he'd zoom in on the cameras to view my assets.

You can always tell them you don't appreciate it if you don't like it.

As for the guys on public transport - I can suggest going up to someone generally 'kind' looking and act as if you know them to escape, and then of course quietly fill them in.

Most people will feel too uncomfortable to turn you away instantly so you're pretty safe with it.

[Inseriousity.]

interesting thread. The more vulnerable you are the more likely you are that you'll be attacked but personally, I think going down that road tends to lead to victim blaming. You should be able to wear whatever the hell you like, walk down whatever dark alley you need to, be as drunk as you want to. The finger of blame should always be on the person who attacked you when you're vulnerable. Take precautions if you have to but don't let that fear get in the way of doing what you want to either (including wearing that top).

My sister was wolf-whistled by guys in a van while we were walking once and I joked that they were doing it for me. It's slightly good that it makes you feel uncomfortable, if you walked down the street and got whistled and were like yeah I'm so great aren't I, that'd be such a turn off. On the other hand, I wouldn't feel too threatened by it. Yes, some men need to learn the definition of 'personal space' but the vast majority of these situations are fleeting. They pass by in an instant. Either you walk past them, they drive past then it's over.

You could wear a burqa as an experiment one day and see what happens then. Chances are you'd probs be attacked for not "fitting in with british culture" etc so either way, some people are always going to be jerks and we shouldn't change the way we are to accommodate them.

[Richie]

No, but i've never found a girl more attractive because they dress like a ****, I'd much prefer a girl properly dressed.

To be fair though the likes of leggings aren't ****** but still sort of 'show' birds arses pretty much, well unless they're wearing a long jumper or something.

@Sharon;
If it was just beeping / whistling, even though it's wrong I'd just say ignore it, there's not much you can do but if guys are actually asking you to go places with them you should really speak to someone immediately like your parents or someone supportive like teachers / doctors or even the police (I'd avoid priests.........).

That's ****** up if guys that are well over 18 can chat you up and get away with it, clearly inappropriate.

Does **** like that happen in the UK? Pretty much every guy I know will avoid a bird if they have the slightest bit of doubt that they're underage, bunch of paedos in the uk lol but seriously speak to someone if that **** goes on

[AgnesIO]

Adding to what scottish said, girls are wayyyyy more attractive when they are not dressed up as *****.