undertaker scams

[scottish]

How long ago was that lol

[lawrawrrr]

i remember that, was back when i was content staff and skynus was assisant content manager wasn't it


but yeah even internal events we wouldnt want tons going in

[Alkaz]

Unless you're running an internal department event. In which case Matt will give you the all clear to give out as much VIP as you want. Case in point: I gave out something like three years of VIP as content manager in one go for a bunch of work which still isn't (And might never be) publicly viewable.

To me that's totally acceptable for this kind of work. I'm pretty sure that ---MAD--- gave similar amounts to Yonder for a design competition that he ran for the main site and then about a year later Yonder himself did a similar competition for a large sum of VIP, however no one entered into that particular comp..

[Chippiewill]

How long ago was that lol

August 2012.

i remember that, was back when i was content staff and skynus was assisant content manager wasn't it

Actually it was shortly before Skynus became senior, although he may as well have been asst manager since he had V7 access anyway.

[Inseriousity.]

I'm pretty sure the Competitions Department gave around 2 1/2 years worth of VIP for one competition when the baftas or Oscars or something was on. Perhaps a rule doesn't necessarily need to be written down, but it's just common sense not to go over the top.

It's still unrepresentative. A bit like picking out examples of criminal immigrants and saying IMMIGRATION IS BAD, WE MUST CLOSE OUR BORDERS. Making rules like that is just dumb. Generally speaking, managers are sensible and have enough common sense not to go over the top. Sometimes, it doesn't quite work out and things don't go as expected (a competition doing better than you'd expect, for instance) but it means the appropriate safeguards can be included if done again.

[lawrawrrr]

but how does a new manager know what is "over the top"... like I've said, we always get asked what's an appropriate prize for events.

[Chippiewill]

The easy way to do it would be with soft VIP limits. i.e. work out approximately how much VIP Habbox ought to hand out entirely per month on average (With a separate figure for site-wide events like HxSS) and then work out an approximate split per department. Then department managers are responsible for their soft allocation, they can go over or under as long as they aren't out by like double. Then special allowances can be made for deviations from this as long as it's authorised by their AGM.

[lawrawrrr]

That's basically what I meant by guidelines.

[Inseriousity.]

common sense lol trust your managers have it. they tend to ask for confirmation or because they're new and aren't really confident enough yet rather than because they need guidelines.

[lawrawrrr]

guidelines aren't rules at all, it's just an extra help. A while back we discussed in feedback management GUIDES - we're not telling them what to do, but offering help and advice. I don't understand how or why you have such a negative or anti- stance against them?