Applying to British Army

[Empired]

Not applied yet, I'm so slow! Going to do it this week though ... Why do they take so long? ;l

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well you're not gonna get a passport if you haven't applied for one ://////////

And because there are a lot of applications to get through I assume

[Okeanos]

So the millions of young lads who gave their lives for King and country against the Third Reich deserve zero respect?

Maybe you should go over to your beloved Europe, stand on the fields of Flanders (as I have) and take in the sacrifice they made for us. Absolute lions of men.

Doctors, Police, teachers and social workers aren't the ones throwing themselves in a shower of bullets in a foreign hellhole so you can post this tripe freely.

Typical right-wing argument. Yes, I do respect the soldiers who died in WW2 - that was probably the only worthwhile war we've ever been in - but that does not mean all soldiers deserve respect.

Every soldier who died in Iraq and Afghanistan has died I vain since their 'sacrifice' rolleyes has made no difference to my freedom. Iraq and Afghanistan never posed a threat to the UK, I would have been free to say this regardless of whether we went to war or not. Risking your life for no good reason is not worthy of my respect.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Typical right-wing argument. Yes, I do respect the soldiers who died in WW2 - that was probably the only worthwhile war we've ever been in - but that does not mean all soldiers deserve respect.

Yes it is a right wing argument. That's right, because we actually aren't consumed self-loathing.

And what about the Falklands? The two-hundred or something men who died in that conflict? Aden? Malaya? Korea? Singapore? the Raj?

Every soldier who died in Iraq and Afghanistan has died I vain since their 'sacrifice' rolleyes has made no difference to my freedom. Iraq and Afghanistan never posed a threat to the UK, I would have been free to say this regardless of whether we went to war or not. Risking your life for no good reason is not worthy of my respect.

I don't agree with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan either you'll be surpsied to know however the soldiers did die for their country and whether or not you agree with the conflict you still have and show respect for men who did their duty when called up and served their country.

Giving your life for your country and people is just about the most noble thing you can do.

[Okeanos]

And what about the Falklands? The two-hundred or something men who died in that conflict? Aden? Malaya? Korea? Singapore? the Raj?

All pointless.

I don't agree with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan either you'll be surpsied to know however the soldiers did die for their country and whether or not you agree with the conflict you still have and show respect for men who did their duty when called up and served their country.

Giving your life for your country and people is just about the most noble thing you can do.

No I don't because as I say, it was futile, it achieved nothing, all they did was destabilise a region and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Nobody who died 'gave' their life willingly, if they had the choice I'm sure they'd have all chosen to live.They died doing a job, why do they deserve special attention and respect? Plenty of people have died doing jobs in other professions.

[-:Undertaker:-]

All pointless.

Defending the Britons on the Falklands from an aggressive act of war by the Argentine junta was pointless?

No I don't because as I say, it was futile, it achieved nothing, all they did was destabilise a region and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Nobody who died 'gave' their life willingly, if they had the choice I'm sure they'd have all chosen to live.They died doing a job, why do they deserve special attention and respect? Plenty of people have died doing jobs in other professions.

It's a little different joining the army to other professions, ie a brick layer dying on the job as a brick falls on his head. Is marching straight into the hellfire of war and knowing you are likely to die as a result really comparable and worthy of only the same respect as a a guy who falls off his ladder?

You sound like the kinda guy who, back in the late 1930s, would've sat back and refused to serve. How brave of you.

[Okeanos]

Defending the Britons on the Falklands from an aggressive act of war by the Argentine junta was pointless?

Yup.

It's a little different joining the army to other professions, ie a brick layer dying on the job as a brick falls on his head. Is marching straight into the hellfire of war and knowing you are likely to die as a result really comparable and worthy of only the same respect as a a guy who falls off his ladder?

You sound like the kinda guy who, back in the late 1930s, would've sat back and refused to serve. How brave of you.

I respect the brick layer more. If you have so little respect for life that you're willing to throw yours away in a blaze of bullets for no reason then the world is probably better off without you. As for bravery, is it brave for a soldier to shoot and bomb people just because they are told to? I don't think so.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yup.

So in other words you don't even believe in the basic human concept of self defence.

All I can say is goodluck to your friends, family or future wife and children if the time ever comes for you to stand up and defend them.

I respect the brick layer more. If you have so little respect for life that you're willing to throw yours away in a blaze of bullets for no reason then the world is probably better off without you. As for bravery, is it brave for a soldier to shoot and bomb people just because they are told to? I don't think so.

You have little respect for life as just above you've said the Falklands conflict, saving the people living there, was pointless.

[Okeanos]

So in other words you don't even believe in the basic human concept of self defence.

All I can say is goodluck to your friends, family or future wife and children if the time ever comes for you to stand up and defend them.



You have little respect for life as just above you've said the Falklands conflict, saving the people living there, was pointless.

Defence, sure - but the war didn't archive much as the Falkland Islanders still live with the threat of invasion. Diplomacy is the only thing that works in the end, not fighting. Your second point makes zero sense.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Defence, sure - but the war didn't archive much as the Falkland Islanders still live with the threat of invasion.

Yes it did. The Falklands remain British and free, and the Argentine military junta collapsed as a result.

Diplomacy is the only thing that works in the end

There's nothing to diplomatically discuss. The Britons in the Falklands wish to remain a colony under the Crown, the British Government wishes the same yet Argentina doesn't. What else is there to discuss?

Argentina: "We demand the Falklands"
Falklands: "No we don't want you"
Britain: "We and those in the Falklands don't want you"

End of discussion.

not fighting.

Fighting doesn't work? What!? Errrr the crushing military defeat of the Japanese Empire and the Third Reich didn't work then?

Your second point makes zero sense.

No, that is you.

You've gone now from saying that all soldiers are killers to having said that in some wars it may be justified. You are all over the place.