Seniors.

[lawrawrrr]

i think the problem is that some people just arent confident enough to apply for the roles. Im not saying this is the case for every role - but im sure there are plenty of staff who, with right guidance, could make exceptional seniors - but just don't apply to be one.

Most departments don't have applications for seniors! Off the top of my head, HxL is the only one that has for the last few years. It's usually chosen by the manager/AGM who pick on merit alone. Some staff are always gonna be more confident than others but I work really hard (with my managers doing a fantastic job too at the moment) at encouraging all staff to bump up that standard and interaction which makes for a good Senior.

[Bobozia]

Erm, this is a fansite where people volunteer their time.

If they were being paid then maybe you could demand 24/7 attention, 9 to 5 days and 2 weeks holiday a year maximum but it isn't. Perspective.

exactly, so we have to accept people won't be able to constantly be around.

[Kimmy]

Completely agree with Nick. People constantly have reasons why they can't do their role due to holidays etc. If the same person is a senior is different departments, then all the departments take a hit when that person is away. If each person can only have one senior role, then it means that yes, one department will still take a hit - but the rest of them can still carry on as normal.

If a department falters the moment a Senior can't do their work, then the manager needs to reconsider the role altogether. The point of a senior is to assist and aid the manager (or in HxL's case, Head DJ) in some of the admin stuff; not balance the whole department on their shoulders.
If a person is both dedicated and willing, then I see absolutely no problems with it. It's so hard to find decent staff these days, and if a person can excel elsewhere, then why not everywhere? If they can handle it, massive kudos to them for being able to do so.

As Alysha said, if this is to do with Tommy then it is rather petty. Tommy is doing fantastically in all of his roles, and I can vouch for him majorly with HabboxLive. I'm pretty sure the other managers thought so too when they promoted him.

[welshcake]

Yeah I agree. Fire everyone who is in more than 1 senior position.

[Kyle]

Every community dept has had senior apps open in the last 2 years

Seniors are essentially now normal staff with administrative duties. Senior staff used to contribute greatly to development and marketing of departments but in recent years that has clearly declined. If we look at the amount of times applications for management have been open to outsiders as an alternative to hiring from within the department we can see that grooming seniors to be leaders is no longer a thing and management of staff has lost all humanness. Staff are just objects to be processed, if someone resigns U get another one in, if that person resigns, u get another. The only staff that are left are the ones content with stagnancy because if they resign what else do they have?

If seniors had more to contribute to their teams then it would perhaps be reasonable to restrict them, but as it is they don't have enough responsibility to need to prioritise their energy.

[Samantha]

Every community dept has had senior apps open in the last 2 years

Seniors are essentially now normal staff with administrative duties. Senior staff used to contribute greatly to development and marketing of departments but in recent years that has clearly declined. If we look at the amount of times applications for management have been open to outsiders as an alternative to hiring from within the department we can see that grooming seniors to be leaders is no longer a thing and management of staff has lost all humanness. Staff are just objects to be processed, if someone resigns U get another one in, if that person resigns, u get another. The only staff that are left are the ones content with stagnancy because if they resign what else do they have?

If seniors had more to contribute to their teams then it would perhaps be reasonable to restrict them, but as it is they don't have enough responsibility to need to prioritise their energy.

Competitions hasn't as far as I know .

I don't think there is any need to limit the amount of senior positions someone has, if they're doing what is required of them then I see no point stopping someone who is obviously the best for the job at the time to take on more work. It's up to the seniors themselves to say they can't handle it, not someone who can't see it from their point of view. Of course if they begin to lack in a role they have, it might seem like it is because of how many senior roles they currently have and that would be questioned.

I can only speak from my experience with seniors, and currently Expling is one of the best seniors I have ever had, and linking on to what you said Kyle, he does a bit of the admin work, but one of his other roles is to ensure that staff are happy, either new or old and he has worked so hard on recruiting new ones too! I do agree that this might have declined in recent years, with some just wanting a promotion, or some just wanting to just do that extra bit of work that comes with the job. In theory, a senior is going to manage the department if you are away or on limited activity, they should be able to do a fair amount of work in the department and if they can handle that in more than one department then that's fine by me. Sorry if I sound biased, but some of the seniors I have worked with, off the top of my head, Tommy, Shoned, laura, all had multiple senior roles when I was the manager, and they all worked fine!

You need to consider what senior roles a person has as well, like @Zealoux; said I think, she can DJ and do graphics at the same time, you can do a lot of things together and it kills two birds with one stone!

Limiting an amount of roles someone can have is fine, but again you don't know what they can handle. When I received my 5th role, yeah I was a bit weary and was planning to resign from one of them, but you need to trial something before you can see if it works or not I think. If you don't take risks @Inseriousity. how would you know what works and what doesn't? Currently, I won't be reducing the roles I have, I enjoy my departments and I believe I'm doing the work required of me in them all, it all depends on the departments you're in though. We are volunteers at the end of the day, and management will realise if quality and production slip in a department! Remember we all have the option to resign if we believe we're not doing our best, and surely we should be able to figure that out on our own?

[-Nick]

I think some people are forgetting that these are minimums but you can go over these, so if there is one senior for 4 departments within doubts unless they are spending 24/7 on Habbox doing work, they won't be going the extra mile. Whereas you could have 4 seniors all going the extra mile. Also if anyone says there is nobody, I know atleast 1/4 of each of the habbox workforce's would be dedicated enough to have a more senor role.

[Empired]

I think some people are forgetting that these are minimums but you can go over these, so if there is one senior for 4 departments within doubts unless they are spending 24/7 on Habbox doing work, they won't be going the extra mile. Whereas you could have 4 seniors all going the extra mile. Also if anyone says there is nobody, I know atleast 1/4 of each of the habbox workforce's would be dedicated enough to have a more senor role.

I don't think anyone has 4 senior roles do they? Also, if someone is a senior in just one department it still doesn't guarantee they will want to put in more work than the absolute minimum. You need to stop assuming all people are robots who all work at the same pace.

[Kyle]

I think some people are forgetting that these are minimums but you can go over these, so if there is one senior for 4 departments within doubts unless they are spending 24/7 on Habbox doing work, they won't be going the extra mile. Whereas you could have 4 seniors all going the extra mile. Also if anyone says there is nobody, I know atleast 1/4 of each of the habbox workforce's would be dedicated enough to have a more senor role.

Outline what you think is required of seniors in each department and why you think people aren't up to it if they have other roles

[lawrawrrr]

Nick you just don't get it

If someone isn't doing their role as senior they will be disciplined and asked to step down! I know I make sure I'm keeping up with what all senior staff especially are doing, to make sure they're doing that extra step up from normal staff because it's a role to earn, not just walk into.

And I'm extremely happy to say that the seniors we do have in Content depts do a FANTASTIC job. Plus, there are more people in the departments that don't have a senior role that still go that extra mile - we do notice them - and they're the ones who get the rewards and are more likely to get a promotion if and when a spot comes around.

Choosing seniors is a very difficult job as quite a lot of the time they do go on to manage that department, so it's crucial to pick someone who can do that workload, has demonstrated sufficient skill (tbh, more skilled than we'd expect normal staff to be), willingness, trustworthiness, and that extra touch that makes a good senior, well, a good senior.

If there's no one who fulfils all those criteria, then unless the department is struggling and desperately needs someone to help out with admin, we don't hire a senior. I've denied senior requests to almost every manager that's been under me during my time as AGM for that reason - and I've discussed (almost) every promotion and possible promotion in huge depth, weighing up ALL of the pros and cons.

Yes, amount of roles is a con, but that's why we keep a closer eye on what ALL seniors (no matter how many jobs they have) do, because their role is so much more crucial to Habbox than a regular staff member.

I hope this pretty much answers all your questions.


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