Why are you Liberal/Moderate/Conservative, etc?

[dbgtz]

The Obama administration and the President himself were under criticism within the United States for failing to properly denounce those rioting such as Ferguson and Black Lives Matter, excusing them or failing to properly condemn Police murders by these street gangs. As somebody who listens to a US talk show every night and has done for three or four years, this wasn't covered in the British press but was covered extensively in the US. Hence your apparent surprise at these attacks on his legacy.

Many Americans view Obama as a disgrace to the office of the Presidency for this and much more, hence why his successor got her arse handed to her in the Presidential Election. Of course, British media were in love with Obama (remember the gushing from the BBC compared with the constant sneering as George W Bush) so you're probably unaware of this controversy surrounding him.

No I'm entirely aware thanks, I just don't see how that has anything to do with this wave of political correctness. I'm not even defending Obama for his lack of reaction, just simply that it really isn't the cause of what Landon was complaining about.

Also, Clinton did get more votes so "arse handed to her" is a tad of an exaggeration. Though I better be careful saying that, you might assume I like Clinton because I countered something you said which attacked her!!

Exactly! We **** it up. Now we need to take responsibility and finish.

Oh my god

[Landon]

Oh my god

At least we take responsibility for it. And you have nothing to say other than 'oh my god'.

[scottish]

Oh my god indeed.

[Landon]

Oh my god indeed.

Yet there's no argument to give back. You know quite well it was a mistake to withdraw from the middle east. Liberals think we need to let the middle east go to hell. Not how I was raised.

[dbgtz]

At least we take responsibility for it. And you have nothing to say other than 'oh my god'.

You're literally suggesting that, to solve the problem, you should do the thing which significantly contributed to the cause. Nice idea.

[Landon]

You're literally suggesting that, to solve the problem, you should do the thing which significantly contributed to the cause. Nice idea.

Thanks! We created a big problem and we might as well go back in and finish it up lmao. Read the news. ISIS has been a big problem, especially these past two years.

[FlyingJesus]

Just like before that Al-Qaeda was, and before that the Taliban, and before that the Chechens, and before that the IJO, and before that the Puerto Rican separatists, and before that the Communists...

Should be clear by now that invading countries doesn't stop terrorism

[Landon]

Should be clear by now that invading countries doesn't stop terrorism

But leaving them starts it, yes?

We learned that the hard way.

[FlyingJesus]

No lol terrorism didn't start in 2007

[Landon]

No lol terrorism didn't start in 2007

Of course not. But do you deny that when we left it made it 100x worse? That's why the middle east is chaos at the moment.