[CLOSED] Euthanasia, The consent of taking your own life - ENDS 15TH APRIL, 2017

[Brad]

I see, then please state it as it may have been perceived that you were only pro active.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to why countries, in which I had stated above, would still be against euthanasia?

[scottish]

I though it was obviously implied too.

[Brad]

I though it was obviously implied too.

For someone who is active in debates, I'm surprised that you didn't ask the same thing I did.

Just because it is "implied" doesn't mean that it is what they were implying. That is based upon perception. You're assuming that even though they did not necessarily say it, they still meant it.

If I'm bringing this back to the topic of the debate. Someone can imply that if they were on life support or in critical, life-threatening state, that they'd want to be removed from it... doesn't actually mean that they are going to be taken off. Now let's say that individual actually stated in written form that if the above situation happened, then to proceed with taking them off life support thus allowing euthanasia take place.

As my father always said;

If you assume something, you will always make an "Ass" out of "U" and "ME"

[Empired]

Calm down brad I'm sorry I didn't dot my i's and cross all my t's

I can only assume other countries still don't allow at least passive euthanasia (I understand active euthanasia is more of a grey area) because of either backward religious reasoning or the stupid argument of "it's always been this way". But as we're not allowed to assume in this debate anymore I suppose my point is entirely invalid.

[Landon]

Are you supporting the idea of denying a person the right to die in a safe environment and instead of pushing them to jump in front of a train? Hop in the bathtub and OD? Find something extremely tall to jump from?

Yep! I don't agree with suicide nor do I think someone should choose to go into a medical facility to die instead of jump off of a building for instance. They need to be put in a mental facility of some sort for depression and treatment.

[Brad]

But as we're not allowed to assume in this debate anymore I suppose my point is entirely invalid.

No, your point is valid. I just questioned what was unwritten.
As others will/would have as well.

I didn't say you couldn't assume, but if you're going to post in a debate (just like all other debates), someone is going to question it. Just be ready to support it or defend what you have said.
that's all.

So I guess to continue on with the debate;

Does anyone have any thoughts as to why countries, in which I had stated above, would still be against euthanasia?

[Empired]

I "don't agree" with suicide but that doesn't actually have any effect on whether people commit suicide does it.

"Don't commit suicide it goes against my morals"
"Oh you're right Landon wow I'm all cured now let me transform into a fully functioning and healthy member of society".

Also we can't dump anyone who's having suicidal thoughts in an institution or we'd lose most of the Western teenaged population.

[scottish]

For someone who is active in debates, I'm surprised that you didn't ask the same thing I did.

Just because it is "implied" doesn't mean that it is what they were implying. That is based upon perception. You're assuming that even though they did not necessarily say it, they still meant it.

If I'm bringing this back to the topic of the debate. Someone can imply that if they were on life support or in critical, life-threatening state, that they'd want to be removed from it... doesn't actually mean that they are going to be taken off. Now let's say that individual actually stated in written form that if the above situation happened, then to proceed with taking them off life support thus allowing euthanasia take place.

As my father always said;

It's not an assumption it's a logical conclusion/implication. Logically if you support active you'll support passive.

You're not going to allow medical professionals to actively take a part in ending someone's life and utterly oppose them from taking no action which results in the death of the patient... it doesn't make sense does it?

[Brad]

Yep! I don't agree with suicide nor do I think someone should choose to go into a medical facility to die instead of jump off of a building for instance. They need to be put in a mental facility of some sort for depression and treatment.

Suicide and Active Euthanasia are two different matters, though run the same path. Because both is voluntary and intentionally. One is more inhumane than the others, one also effects in a negative way as the other is more accepted.

[Landon]

I "don't agree" with suicide but that doesn't actually have any effect on whether people commit suicide does it.

"Don't commit suicide it goes against my morals"
"Oh you're right Landon wow I'm all cured now let me transform into a fully functioning and healthy member of society".

Why do you say that you're against suicide but then attack me for saying that I don't think it's right? You are contradicting yourself.

That's why I questioned you about your comment on euthanasia. You seem to defend a very aggressive form of the topic? And now, you are saying that some of the "western teenaged population" are suicidal which is true, but you said that we can't send them all to an institution which leaves them hopeless lol. It sure seems like you are for ending lives without medical reasoning.