Get rid of post your... junk threads

[Yawn]

the posts and entire thread is still complete trash no matter how many rules u implement -.-

[Blinger]

Is it also an issue that they're stickied threads?

[FlyingJesus]

Ryan why are you still banging on about the number of posts when it's an issue of rulebreaking

[GommeInc]

Ryan why are you still banging on about the number of posts when it's an issue of rulebreaking

You're doing what you did with the rape thread - failing to read the first post and truly understanding it - this is to do with post count. If you bothered to read Kardan's post I was replying to he even looks at post count rather than the (non)rule breaking. He was citing members who supposedly post a lot each day when a quick bit of looking shows that there are not many posts being made a day. Telling people not to reply with a counter-argument is incredibly rude.

Here are some snippets and the crux of this thread:

The main ones that are being used to boost post count.

It's so blatantly used to boost post count and everyone knows it, do something about it @Phil;

Either move them to forum games or whatever section is used for spam posts like that sort so they lose their post count and have wasted weeks of their life constantly trying to boost it (for the luls) or archive it so they keep post count and open new thread in forum games or where ever

or, enable post count in spam and forum games

it's illogical to leave it as it is.

This is all to do with post count - people are supposedly doing it to boost their post count yet there is no evidence of it. Again, no one has done their homework and jumped to conclusions. 3 posts a day in some of these threads is not spamming the forum with unruly posts. The most I've found is 10 - it's laughable that this non-issue arises and if I recall these threads are not receiving the same attention as they did the last time this (non)problem arose, people are posting less generally. I'm sure I discovered last time it was about 30 posts a day between loads of people - this has significantly changed.

Furthermore - there is no mention of the pointless posting rule at the beginning of this thread. Even further is the problem with the "pointless posting" rule breaks that are allegedly happening. Time to cite the rule:

A7. Do not post pointlessly ~ ~ Do not post off-topic ~ An off-topic post has no relevance to the topic or any previous post that is relevant, or does little to positively contribute to the discussion.
~ Do not spam/make pointless posts. It is not allowed to post random, meaningless, posts or threads on the forum. Examples of this are (ROFLCOPTER!!!!!!); (BYRDSB +HKK; ) (I am a plane)
~ Do not posts threads which only allow for short, one or two word answers and do not promote active discussion. Repeatably posting short replies such as "Yes" or "Nope" is also forbidden. What is classed as pointless or abuse is entirely down to the discretion of the Forum Department.
~ You may not make posts that contain plain images only. Images that includes text are allowed so long as they are relevant to the threads discussion. This rule does not apply to the forum games or spam forums.

These posts are not pointless regarding the opening remarks - they are in reply to the thread topic: An off-topic post has no relevance to the topic or any previous post that is relevant

It does not break the second area (ROFLCOPTER etc etc)
They do not break the next bit as the threads do allow for active discussion it's just that members refuse to write more to give their posts quality and as I said earlier - would it really matter? Not all posts are read or understood - quite a lot go ignored. It's a trivial matter where you're forcing people to care about something that doesn't need to be cared about - you'll be destroying the point of a forum if everyone and everything had to be serious. Furthermore, these threads do not break the forum rule as it clearly states an important clause: "What is classed as pointless or abuse is entirely down to the discretion of the Forum Department." This means the rule is only broken if the moderators say it is, and as these posts are not by any definition pointless the moderators are acting in accordance with the textbook definition of pointless, the fact they too seem to acknowledge this is a non problem, that these threads are in the right forums (moving them to forum games means they're in the wrong forum as they're not even games for starters) and that these threads are not being spammed in - contrary to belief.

[Yawn]

ur post is too long and says too many different things

but ur wrong gommeinc, rly wrong

[GommeInc]

ur post is too long and says too many different things

but ur wrong gommeinc, rly wrong

Post reasons why then. It's fact - those threads do not generate that many posts. It's also fact the pointless posting rule isn't being violated with these threads.

It's such a non-problem that there's a reason why every time these threads (anti-"Post your" feedback threads) end up amounting to nothing is because there is nothing wrong with them

[Kardan]

Post reasons why then. It's fact - those threads do not generate that many posts. It's also fact the pointless posting rule isn't being violated with these threads.

It's such a non-problem that there's a reason why every time these threads (anti-"Post your" feedback threads) end up amounting to nothing is because there is nothing wrong with them

Despite them being some of the biggest threads on the forum.

[FlyingJesus]

You're doing what you did with the rape thread - failing to read the first post and truly understanding it

And you're doing what you did with it; failing to see where the thread has evolved to because you don't have any genuine refutations to the newer arguments. You're also somehow still managing to not even read the rules properly despite posting them yourself.

~ Do not posts threads which only allow for short, one or two word answers and do not promote active discussion.
The idea that moderator discretion covers any and all abuses is absurd considering it's right there in writing with specific guidelines, and as has been said before the moderator's own ideas come into what is a singular "meaningless" post rather than being an out for them when they don't feel like upholding those parts of the rule that aren't ambiguous. Your claim that the rule is only broken if mods say so doesn't hold any water because it isn't in reference to the part about non-discussive threads - as is clear from the absence of any such wording in that part. Yet again, they do not allow for discussion as has already been covered some pages back if you cared to become clued-up on what you're trying to defend. Also again (I seem to often have to repeat myself with you as you love to bring up points that have already been countered) I nor anyone else at this stage is advocating for them to be put in Forum Games. Do try to keep up with the thread.

[Yawn]

zZZzzzz how many times does it need to be said that these do generate a lot of posts
shockerz has over 1k posts in wat are u watching alone zzZzZzz if every day they make a few posts it soon adds up

its still a problem that could be easily overcome even if its minimal posts each day. y does it need to be ignored

and just because ppl choose to not create discussion doesnt mean the thread is not just a stagnant mess of posts with no discussion at all EVER. they also clearly break the rules

the thread PROVES to create no discussion and its just ppl endlessly posting the bare minimum

[GommeInc]

And you're doing what you did with it; failing to see where the thread has evolved to because you don't have any genuine refutations to the newer arguments. You're also somehow still managing to not even read the rules properly despite posting them yourself.

~ Do not posts threads which only allow for short, one or two word answers and do not promote active discussion.
The idea that moderator discretion covers any and all abuses is absurd considering it's right there in writing with specific guidelines, and as has been said before the moderator's own ideas come into what is a singular "meaningless" post rather than being an out for them when they don't feel like upholding those parts of the rule that aren't ambiguous. Your claim that the rule is only broken if mods say so doesn't hold any water because it isn't in reference to the part about non-discussive threads - as is clear from the absence of any such wording in that part. Yet again, they do not allow for discussion as has already been covered some pages back if you cared to become clued-up on what you're trying to defend. Also again (I seem to often have to repeat myself with you as you love to bring up points that have already been countered) I nor anyone else at this stage is advocating for them to be put in Forum Games. Do try to keep up with the thread.

You can talk, I've been posting them - hence my reply to Kardan's post which you seem to think was ages ago when actually it was on the last page. So the bit on bold is absolute rubbish. Seems your advice needs to be taken Catch up.

So as this is clearly about post count, my point still is yet to be countered - on Saturday, many of those threads only received 3 posts each. The most on Saturday was 10 in the post what you're listening to thread, by quite a few different people. Hardly shocking. As for the rule, moderator discretion has absolute power but you seem to have a habit of ignoring most of a rule and only focusing on one bit - similar to the rape thread where you hilariously made it obvious you do not know how to read legislation and kept referring to one bit but failing to read the law in general - no wonder you don't understand context!

So let's establish that:

1) These threads do not break the rules.
2) They are not pointless.
3) They are not spammed in.

zZZzzzz how many times does it need to be said that these do generate a lot of posts
shockerz has over 1k posts in wat are u watching alone zzZzZzz if every day they make a few posts it soon adds up

its still a problem that could be easily overcome even if its minimal posts each day. y does it need to be ignored

and just because ppl choose to not create discussion doesnt mean the thread is not just a stagnant mess of posts with no discussion at all EVER. they also clearly break the rules

the thread PROVES to create no discussion and its just ppl endlessly posting the bare minimum

No they don't. Use maths and look at the threads before casting wild assumptions. I highlighted that over the weekend, or Saturday specifically, the biggest offender had about 10 posts in. Shock and horror, the number of posts is painful! Furthermore, thousands of posts isn't a lot - they're worthless. If you want to obtain Forum God then you'll have to better than that, and as they're not post in that much you'll have a hard time getting to any worthwhile user group.

Post count goes with Member Ranks. Post count on its own is completely worthless (in fact, useless) and the idea people were rewarded (rebutted ages ago) was ridiculous, seeing as there weren't many posts to begin with).

Despite them being some of the biggest threads on the forum.

And oldest. What are you listening to dates back to 2009. You purposely ignored the fact that these threads are ancient and on average only produce about 30 posts per person (if the last time I checked out averages were correct). Also, loads of members have since disappeared since then so that further diminishes that argument.