EU Referendum Megathread (Brexit)

[The Don]

If you had principles you'd be arguing for a federal Europe or Leave.

Knew this was coming...

Now that actually is a character attack (cameron with the pig, miliband with the sandwich). Stay classy brexit camp

[-:Undertaker:-]

Now that actually is a character attack (cameron with the pig, miliband with the sandwich). Stay classy brexit camp

To be fair Cameron has told some right porkies this campaign.

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To be fair Cameron has told some right porkies this campaign.

I disagree but lmao nice one.

[Lucy]

I disagree but lmao nice one.

I am not going to quote anything specifically because people class didn't media as reputable or not, but did Cameron not say that "Brexit" could lead to war?

If he did not then fair enough, as it's been hard to follow across the pond

[-:Undertaker:-]

Another lie of the Remain camp is falling apart today as it transpires the government is preparing to grant 1m citizens of Turkey (EU candidate) visa-free travel. This comes despite Cameron - who is on record as wanting Turkey to join the EU which would give 80m Turks complete free access to the UK and our social services - and Remain claiming that Turkey isn't anywhere near joining the EU. Here's the most despicable thing though: we only know this because of a leak, they're planning to only announce and do this after we've voted in the referendum. A bit like how they're denying an EU army and have delayed plans for it until after we've voted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36510009

British diplomats secretly discussed granting visa-free travel to UK for 1 million Turks: https://t.co/LLSKuNVkvw pic.twitter.com/3rknKWgxtX

— Vote Leave (@vote_leave) June 12, 2016

A British diplomat suggested visa-free travel for some Turkish nationals should be extended to the UK, documents leaked to The Sunday Times show.

She suggested the move be considered for Turkish "special passport" holders, who are mainly civil servants. The EU backed Turks getting visa-free travel inside Europe's Schengen area, as a deal for accepting more migrants. But the UK home and foreign secretaries said any suggestion of changing visa arrangements were "completely untrue".

The leaked telegrams, sent on 5 May by Janet Douglas, the deputy head of mission at the British Embassy in Ankara relate to the EU's own visa deal, planned as recompense for Turkish help dealing with the Syrian migrant crisis. The deal, to allow visa-free travel to Schengen countries, was offered in return for Turkey taking back migrants who crossed the Aegean Sea to Greece. The EU fears that, without it, Turkey will not control migration.

Pro-Brexit ex-cabinet minister Iain Duncan Smith said the documents showed Prime Minister David Cameron was involved with the European Commission in "an appalling deceit" to keep the prospect secret until after the EU referendum vote on 23 June.

He said: "They say nothing is happening about Turkey, but this shows they are already making official plans to allow visa free access for Turkish citizens.
"The attempt to hide this, and to delay key decisions until after the referendum, is cynical in the extreme."

Albania, the Republic of Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey are all EU candidate countries.

Can anyone imagine the bill to pay when this combined group of very poor countries of over 100m people join the EU and will have free movement to the UK?

How can our public services cope with this insanity?

I am not going to quote anything specifically because people class didn't media as reputable or not, but did Cameron not say that "Brexit" could lead to war?

If he did not then fair enough, as it's been hard to follow across the pond

Cameron didn't specifically say it but he did allude to it by mentioning rows of white headstones across Europe.

He's a very ignorant man though because it has been NATO who have kept the peace in Europe.

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I am not going to quote anything specifically because people class didn't media as reputable or not, but did Cameron not say that "Brexit" could lead to war?

If he did not then fair enough, as it's been hard to follow across the pond

Yes followed by a sensible explanation (well as sensible as all of Brexit's explanations).

[The Don]

Yes followed by a sensible explanation (well as sensible as all of Brexit's explanations).

He basically pointed out the truth that the EU has helped bring peace to what was once a volatile and unstable continent. 60 years ago we would have laughed at the idea of open borders between Germany, France, Poland etc... It's amazing what the EU has helped achieve.

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He basically pointed out the truth that the EU has helped bring peace to what was once a volatile and unstable continent. 60 years ago we would have laughed at the idea of open borders between Germany, France, Poland etc... It's amazing what the EU has helped achieve.

Exactly. And though it is true, the chance of a war between UK and Germany even if we exit is highly unlikely... but hey who knows? However at least via EU we know for sure we wont have a war between member states.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Exactly. And though it is true, the chance of a war between UK and Germany even if we exit is highly unlikely... but hey who knows? However at least via EU we know for sure we wont have a war between member states.

how ridiculous

if anything the EU is causing tension and risks violence as it's forcing different peoples together who don't want to be together. we've all seen the hatred the dislike many Greeks now have for the Germans and the tension EU causes between Britain and other countries. the EU is like a giant proto-Yugoslavia and will end in tears. People are now even resorting to voting for fascists in some countries because they feel powerless - the EU is fuelling violence and extremism.

the greeks should run greece, the british should run britain and the germans should run germany. live and co-exist happily as neighbours but just as you wouldn't let your next door neighbour decide which carpet you should have, what rent you will pay or who can go and live in your house.

[The Don]

how ridiculous

if anything the EU is causing tension and risks violence as it's forcing different peoples together who don't want to be together. we've all seen the hatred the dislike many Greeks now have for the Germans and the tension EU causes between Britain and other countries. the EU is like a giant proto-Yugoslavia and will end in tears. People are now even resorting to voting for fascists in some countries because they feel powerless - the EU is fuelling violence and extremism.

the greeks should run greece, the british should run britain and the germans should run germany. live and co-exist happily as neighbours but just as you wouldn't let your next door neighbour decide which carpet you should have, what rent you will pay or who can go and live in your house.

speak for yourself mate