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Thread: Does God Exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy123 View Post
    I dont believe in god

    However i think that religion is a main factor to why people live their lives, if there was no religion how would so many people cope without anyone to really turn to?
    Maybe they'd actually start helping each other, instead of wasting time praying to end poverty maybe thay could do charity work and you know, actually help others.
    Rather than turn to god when things are bad, maybe you know try to help themselves, do something productive.
    Having a god to turn to is just an excuse for inaction and for not doing. If someone needs help, go help them instead of relying on a non-existent god to do this for them "/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentor View Post
    Maybe they'd actually start helping each other, instead of wasting time praying to end poverty maybe thay could do charity work and you know, actually help others.
    Rather than turn to god when things are bad, maybe you know try to help themselves, do something productive.
    Having a god to turn to is just an excuse for inaction and for not doing. If someone needs help, go help them instead of relying on a non-existent god to do this for them "/
    That's a bit of a generalisation In my church alot of money is given to charity, the building is rented out (for cheap) for events and quite alot of the members go and do voluntary stuff in the UK and abroad - Kenya for example, a group came back after a 3 week stay in a children's hospice, using money raised to bring in aid and build stuff. They even joined in with events like had a huge football game When they left, they did this interesting leaving ceremony!

    But I agree with the pointless and tedious amounts of prayer. Instead of wasting time praying for someone to get better (especially ones that aren't physically present), go to them and encourage them or better yet, make them feel important and wanted. If someone is in need of help with a project like building, go out and help. Charitable work is a good example too, clearing streets. Heck, they believe in the good Samaritan, yet quite alot don't follow it :/ Loads of church groups help out with drunkards out partying, I think there's a huge group in Manchester that help out the police.
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    Most religions encourage prayer for very simple reasons, it makes their religion easy to follow which means you have nothing to do but sit there and hope that something good will happen. It basically means its a do nothing and hope for the best religion. Many people think that if they prey long and hard enough, good things will happen, the funny thing about it is, they mostly prey for the little things around them and when they do change, it increases their faith and makes them prey more. Preying is alright depending on who its for, like if a terminal patient is dying and their family is preying for comfort and acceptance. But preying so that wars would and poverty would cease to exist is just hopeful thinking and personally I agree, if they want something done and want something to get better, get involved instead of sitting around with your head bowed waiting for god to do it for you.

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    1 word, miracles

    Are they you gardian angel or a greater force helping u through life?

    Or are they unlikely coincidences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santorefish View Post
    1 word, miracles

    Are they you gardian angel or a greater force helping u through life?

    Or are they unlikely coincidences?
    Miracles is just a name used to describe an event an individual is too ignorant to understand o.0 How does it prove anything?

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    God does not exist. There are so many flaws. If god was real he would either forgive everyone, in which case you can do no wrong and theres no such thing as hell, but if he's vengeful then everyone should live in fear of going to hell. I believe religion was created to control the masses and give meaning and rules to life. I respect the christian and budhist ethics, as well as the teachings of muhammad and the eastern prophicies but religion has been the cause of, or excuse for, countless atrosphies throughout the history of man kind. Sorry if there are any spelling mistakes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirtualG View Post
    God does not exist. There are so many flaws. If god was real he would either forgive everyone, in which case you can do no wrong and theres no such thing as hell, but if he's vengeful then everyone should live in fear of going to hell. I believe religion was created to control the masses and give meaning and rules to life. I respect the christian and budhist ethics, as well as the teachings of muhammad and the eastern prophicies but religion has been the cause of, or excuse for, countless atrosphies throughout the history of man kind. Sorry if there are any spelling mistakes...
    Exactly right . You should skim over the story of the Apocalypes of Peter, if they had included that instead of the Revelation of John it would have made believing it a lot easier . It is true that they did give meaning, but the meaning isn't requied anymore, we as a race understand enough about the world and life that these beliefs aren't really required anymore, but as always the religions (not all) fight back with no proof and claiming that the scientific evidence must be wrong or scientists have done it to steer you away from god (lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by .Sarcastix. View Post
    Exactly right . You should skim over the story of the Apocalypes of Peter, if they had included that instead of the Revelation of John it would have made believing it a lot easier . It is true that they did give meaning, but the meaning isn't requied anymore, we as a race understand enough about the world and life that these beliefs aren't really required anymore, but as always the religions (not all) fight back with no proof and claiming that the scientific evidence must be wrong or scientists have done it to steer you away from god (lol).
    First of all, thnx I agree with you on everything you have stated so far. Every single miracle in the bible has been explained by scientists for one. Second of all, the bible has been tampered with and edited over the last 2000 years by kings, popes, and other rules over the centuries to suit what they want so they can unite the population and make them believe what the ruler wants is also god's will. If God was real, why would there be soo much suffering in this world, or would he be a sick, sadistic freak who likes to see people, from which supposedly came from his image, suffer and die. And if there was a God and God made everything then who created God? Human minds are the most intellectual minds that we know of but we, ourselves, can noot possibly comprehend all of the universe's secrets. Some things are not always meant to be understood. Do you think you are equal to hitler, himmler or sadam? Do you think they are worthless scum or do you think thhey are just like you, because God supposedly says that EVERYONE's equal which means you just as good as a murderer, a rapist, etc. There is no such thing as a real chritian, there never has been and there never will be. You may believe in chrisitan ethics, I believe in christian ethics, but that doesn't mean you will live by them. The christian pope was once in the Young Nazi's group when he was a child, do you think he never swore, never teased anyone, never did anything wrong? (btw just because you may believe in chritian ethics eg love one another, doesn't mean you believe in christianity) I was baptised by my mother when I was a child, she sent me to a catholic primary school. I've recieved all the sacraments except those of marriage and the last rights but I do not believe in God. I was forced to. My dad did not know of my baptism. I haven't seen my mother in years and I've rejected God completely (but still go to a chrisitan school) and I do not force my views and opinions onto people as most christians will tend to, though I will voice them, whether you listen to them or not is up to you. I think God was a creation of man so that the do not was fear what is to come after death. The truth is, after you die several things can happen you can be burnt to a crisp and ashes shoved into a box, you can be shoved in the ground and decompose as the worms eat you, etc. Im not scared of death. Im not scared of "god". Im a realist. I have many beliefs, some of which may be wrong but if god was real and he could see everything and be every, then let him stop you from reading this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santorefish View Post
    1 word, miracles

    Are they you gardian angel or a greater force helping u through life?

    Or are they unlikely coincidences?
    A miracle is an event which is impossible and could only be the work of a supernatural cause, show me one miracle, I don't think you can find anything that can't be described with a cause.





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    Idk if he exists or not XD

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