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    I remember thinking to myself on the first episode of LOST, where Locke finds out he can walk.

    "They're either in purgatory, they're dreaming or we'll never know."

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    I guess you two were under the impression that they were always in purgatory and the Island itself was a form of it, which is completely untrue. The notion of purgatory was only introduced in S6 via an entirely different alternate dimension which is not parallel with the events of the Island over the six seasons. They did not all die at once and they weren't dead when they met each other. Purgatory was used to reunite people who actually all lived together at one point and it is impossible to guess this conclusion from watching season one.
    Last edited by Simmzay; 24-05-2010 at 05:11 PM.
    Seriously.

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    I thought the ending was done spectacularly. Attention to detail was fantastic and the way they sort of cut away everything else right at the end to focus on the people I thought was quite brave. I'm sure they will recieve a large amount of criticism for leaving so many unanswered questions but I personally thought the ending was fitting to the series. It was really sad, the viewers are saying goodbye to the show and the characters are saying goodbye to one another, just brilliant. I don't mind admitting it made me cry, no sob actually, though that may have had something to do with my tiredness but still, amazing. Very sad to see it go, and although I wanted the answers to the questions as much as anyone, I don't feel cheated or badly done to, to not recieve them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misawa View Post
    I've watched three or four episodes of Lost in my entire life and worked out the conclusion in a passing joke yesterday. Shows how intelligent that show was.
    Are you a moron? I'm sorry but you seriously can't be saying that if you intend to be answered reasonably.

    For me, the Finale was brilliant. Emotionally exhausting through each turn, especially the reunited parts (Charlie/Claire importantly, and then Sawyer/Jules). I loved how it ended, I don't care about answers, I watched the show for 6-odd years to be entertained and damn right I was.

    I found a nice summary of 'LOLPURGATORY':

    The Source is supposed to be the source of all life.

    When they detonated Jughead, it caused two worlds:
    1) the ORIGINAL world where The Source still exists and Jughead didn't change anything, and
    2) an ALTERNATE world, just like the original, except where Jughead destroyed The Source, sinking the Island.

    Because there is no Source in the alternate world, there is no LIFE, effectively making it an AFTER-life.
    However this is an afterlife ONLY to people that had significant ties to both the Island AND each other.


    Because this afterlife was created by the survivors' act of detonating Jughead, that is why Christian Shephard refers to this afterlife as "the place THEY created."

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    At first i was a little bit disappointed by the ending. I was really annoyed that they hadn't answered most things like pregnancy issues, hurley bird, walts powers etc so i came straight online and did a little bit of searching and found this theory by someone on another forum. I think it sums it up really, makes sense. I think i was thinking about the show too logical, that everything would be answered, but it wasn't, the whole show was just like a metaphor for life.

    Here's what the person put.


    Also i was really happy to see Juliet back, she was my favorite character and they hadn't used her all the way through season 6, so i was glad to see her ...

    Also there is one thing i myself would have changed in the story line.... Adam and Eve. I think there was a much better story here that could have been used. Rose and Bernard, they took themselves away from the losties and thus i think they should have become 'LOST' in the timeline. And they could have done a reveal that actually Rose and Bernard had gone back 100's of years and decided to live in the caves, died their together in peace. This would have made it look like they actually knew where they were going with the story line, it kinda did look like this had made this bit up as they had gone along. The only thing that wouldn't fit into the Rose and Bernard story line is the White and Black stones, unless they used this as their ancestostry, Rose being of African origin and Bernard being caucasian, although this seems to having nothing to do with the storyline and could come across as being raceist with the colour black being seen as evil in lost.

    Plus in an episode an anagram was found:

    Only fools are enslaved by time and space

    Which can be changed around to say

    Bones of Nadlers may lay deep in lost cave

    Nadlers meaning Bernard and Rose Nadler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    Are you a moron? I'm sorry but you seriously can't be saying that if you intend to be answered reasonably.

    For me, the Finale was brilliant. Emotionally exhausting through each turn, especially the reunited parts (Charlie/Claire importantly, and then Sawyer/Jules). I loved how it ended, I don't care about answers, I watched the show for 6-odd years to be entertained and damn right I was.

    I found a nice summary of 'LOLPURGATORY':

    The Source is supposed to be the source of all life.

    When they detonated Jughead, it caused two worlds:
    1) the ORIGINAL world where The Source still exists and Jughead didn't change anything, and
    2) an ALTERNATE world, just like the original, except where Jughead destroyed The Source, sinking the Island.

    Because there is no Source in the alternate world, there is no LIFE, effectively making it an AFTER-life.
    However this is an afterlife ONLY to people that had significant ties to both the Island AND each other.


    Because this afterlife was created by the survivors' act of detonating Jughead, that is why Christian Shephard refers to this afterlife as "the place THEY created."
    I think that this is now the general consensus. I'm beginning to warm to the whole final episode. At first I was right annoyed at how they left everything unanswered but the character redemption makes up for it. It's easy to forget all the character struggles that went on throughout the show but the finale wrapped them all up nicely.
    I admit I cried during the episode. Cried when Kate said goodbye to Jack, cried when Hurley didn't want Jack to "commit suicide", cried when Jack died and I cried hard when they showed Jack's stupid happy-smile in the church at the end. MANLY TEARS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    When they detonated Jughead, it caused two worlds:
    1) the ORIGINAL world where The Source still exists and Jughead didn't change anything, and
    2) an ALTERNATE world, just like the original, except where Jughead destroyed The Source, sinking the Island.
    I disagree I personally think the Jughead did nothing more than send them back to their time.

    The whole Alternate world thing was a plot device used to trick the audience into guessing the wrong things.

    in my opinion Yes this fake world was created by them but not to stay forever in an after life, it was created so they could reunited in sort of a 'limbo land' and move on together into the after life (hence the bright light when the church doors opened) The island was underwater in this limbo land as it was not needed, as it was a limbo land for the dead

    Christian Shepard lived up to his name and helped Shepard the Losties into heaven or what ever else you think the after life may be (although I'm going with the christian theme becuase of his name)
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    I’ll be a story in your head, but that’s okay, because we’re all stories in the end. Just make it a good one, eh? Because it was, you know. It was the best. A daft old man who stole a magic box and ran away. Did I ever tell you that I stole it? Well, I borrowed it. I always meant to take it back. Oh, that box, Amy, you’ll dream about that box. It’ll never leave you. Big and little at the same time. Brand-new and ancient and the bluest blue ever. And the times we had, eh? Would had…Never had. In your dreams, they’ll still be there. The Doctor and Amy Pond and the days that never came.

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    Anyone else feel like everything that went on during seasons 1-5 on or off the island is essentially made void by this ending though. It was all pointless as far as I can see in terms of the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Britain View Post
    I disagree I personally think the Jughead did nothing more than send them back to their time.

    The whole Alternate world thing was a plot device used to trick the audience into guessing the wrong things.

    in my opinion Yes this fake world was created by them but not to stay forever in an after life, it was created so they could reunited in sort of a 'limbo land' and move on together into the after life (hence the bright light when the church doors opened) The island was underwater in this limbo land as it was not needed, as it was a limbo land for the dead

    Christian Shepard lived up to his name and helped Shepard the Losties into heaven or what ever else you think the after life may be (although I'm going with the christian theme becuase of his name)
    Yeah, I've pretty much moved away from the Jughead theory now. I was caught up in the excitement of the finale and was eager to find some kind of 'reasonable' explanation.

    Get reading some finale recaps, I've found quite a lot to be very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    When they detonated Jughead, it caused two worlds:
    1) the ORIGINAL world where The Source still exists and Jughead didn't change anything, and
    2) an ALTERNATE world, just like the original, except where Jughead destroyed The Source, sinking the Island.
    No... that is incorrect.
    All the jughead did was send them back to real time. THE ALT IS PURGATORY. Its afterlife. People seem to fail to understand this simple thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tash. View Post
    I thought the ending was done spectacularly. Attention to detail was fantastic and the way they sort of cut away everything else right at the end to focus on the people I thought was quite brave. I'm sure they will recieve a large amount of criticism for leaving so many unanswered questions but I personally thought the ending was fitting to the series. It was really sad, the viewers are saying goodbye to the show and the characters are saying goodbye to one another, just brilliant. I don't mind admitting it made me cry, no sob actually, though that may have had something to do with my tiredness but still, amazing. Very sad to see it go, and although I wanted the answers to the questions as much as anyone, I don't feel cheated or badly done to, to not recieve them.
    I thought you cried cos I called you an idiot for liking such a crap ending? The island was a bloody character itself. They realised they cant answer it so they moved us on to the characters and people fell for it.
    LOST writers need to watch 24 on how to do a real series and show finale.
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