Web Design eleite *rantish*

[Mentor]

Ok lets see, i remember when i first started out on habbox, i knew nothing, andheresmy first ever layout i made, brace your selves its bad.

[img]http://www.****************/uploads/8816ac975e.jpg[/img]

Ok i made it, but the thing is i didnt go ripping others layouts, its by him saying he is better than people which is as you stated 'idiots' behaviour.
Thats 'self obsessed' when he is clearly not better than craig.

Its not bad, its an image not a layout thogh, none the less, a sepertae issue from the "Elite insulters" and im not sure if i made it clear.
Images and layouts are not the same thing, Makeing images is skill with graphics Not Webdesign, So webdesign wize i cant even rate it, becuse its not webdesign..

The People who think there better than everyone else is a sepertae issuse, you dont need to flame people? think of the long running Ripped comic this form held? a subtle link to a certain comic site did all that was needed there

I dont see the point in helping, as when I try and tell someone something, you get the other people telling you your wrong, and if you want to help, you need to stop being crap and all that ****. Ive had it on every forum Ive been on.

consider a few options.
1) maybe you are wrong
2) maybe your both right.
3) diffent people have diffent opinions, and diffent ways of doing things

Becuse people wernt helpful to you always doesnt mean you shoudlnt be helpful to other people.

The people who need help now want everything done for them, like ''Make me a site. Ill pay 2 HC's'' or ''I need a site. I can do a bit of writing, but I need webdesigners, web-coders, alterations, pixel artists, new reporters etc,etc,etc''

It wasnt long ago, people could post codeing requests without offering pay and actaly get them done...

Most site owners cant code, And personly im glad of it, Id be out of a job if they could...

And Gomme, if you dont like my new found attitude, think about this.

Even if you got everyone out of poverty in the world, and gave them places like ours, home and all, we would run out of food, and there wouldnt be enough space, and everything on the planet would die out. Now, people are still living, and the world is turning.

Misconsetipon. BY rasieng the standard of liveing dramticly, would only requre an evening out of the welth, The exstra aria to exspland in to and the better links between contarys caused would cause a rappid groth in industry and technolgy, Farming methods would be improved increaeing productivly a 100 fold in many of the woulds cenral farming arias, Enogh food.
The world is huge, people pack in to tiny arias, spread them out theres more than enogh room.

Not everything can be fair, equal, and I cannot be nice to idiots. Thats Life

Im considering a new polciy, Quite a biblcal one in fact. "do on to others as youd have them do on to you"

Which bascily means ill help people in the same way they help others, you just tell people there stuff is crap, i will just tell you yours is. You offer help and contrsuive cristisim, Ill do them same.
And that would apply to everyone..

[GommeInc]

I dont see the point in helping, as when I try and tell someone something, you get the other people telling you your wrong, and if you want to help, you need to stop being crap and all that ****. Ive had it on every forum Ive been on.

Hmmm, seems very unlikely they will start ranting and screaming at you. Unless they all share an angry attitude towards people. If they do have a go then all you need to do is merely say "Well this is how I do it, and it works. So how can it be crap?" Or maybe your way doesn't work but you only think that it does, so maybe you did deserve to be told off and you take it to heart too easily.

The people who need help now want everything done for them, like ''Make me a site. Ill pay 2 HC's'' or ''I need a site. I can do a bit of writing, but I need webdesigners, web-coders, alterations, pixel artists, new reporters etc,etc,etc''

Isn't that how you make a Website Team? Ask for people to help out and if it becomes good, it was a group effort. And if they are willing to pay for a website layout to be made, then that is reasonable. If they are not willing to put any effort into the site and want you to make the whole site, then tell them no. It is going to be their site and it is them who will be getting all the praise, not you. So just say it is a bad idea. No need to shout and yell. Let the dumb webdesigners waste their time making a whole site for someone, you don't have to.

And Gomme, if you dont like my new found attitude, think about this.

Even if you got everyone out of poverty in the world, and gave them places like ours, home and all, we would run out of food, and there wouldnt be enough space, and everything on the planet would die out. Now, people are still living, and the world is turning.

This is web design? I can't see how it fits in. Besides, if Third World countries suffering in poverty came out of suffering, how would we be the ones suffering? If they are out of poverty that means they are in a self-sustaining environment. They wouldn't be out of poverty if they still got food from MEDC's.

Not everything can be fair, equal, and I cannot be nice to idiots. Thats Life

Fair enough, but you must be a very angry person to hate anything considered an idiot.

[MattUH]

whats with you and Mentor with these mega long posts?

[GommeInc]

Proving a point

[JoeComins]

Im considering a new polciy, Quite a biblcal one in fact. "do on to others as youd have them do on to you"

Which bascily means ill help people in the same way they help others, you just tell people there stuff is crap, i will just tell you yours is. You offer help and contrsuive cristisim, Ill do them same.
And that would apply to everyone..

Then you are at the start of the vicious triangle.

You flamed me for a misconception about expandable tables, and didnt really help me that much. You just showed off, saying things I didnt understand. So thats the not helping others. Why should I help others if only 2 people eveyr helped me.

On this forum, your flamed me, and when I asked for critism, you say things like "9/10 - good." or "Its only an image, Why should I rate it"
What would be the point in making it into a site if people thought it was crap.

[GommeInc]

Then you are at the start of the vicious triangle.

You flamed me for a misconception about expandable tables, and didnt really help me that much. You just showed off, saying things I didnt understand. So thats the not helping others. Why should I help others if only 2 people eveyr helped me.

On this forum, your flamed me, and when I asked for critism, you say things like "9/10 - good." or "Its only an image, Why should I rate it"
What would be the point in making it into a site if people thought it was crap.

You seem to like sticking around the same point for a while. Life is life as you said. So what if Mentor flamed you for something, you didn't have to listen to him :rolleyes:.

You can help others, if you don't want to, don't. You don't have to reply to every topic asking for help and flame them...

[Sygon.]

Then you are at the start of the vicious triangle.

You flamed me for a misconception about expandable tables, and didnt really help me that much. You just showed off, saying things I didnt understand. So thats the not helping others. Why should I help others if only 2 people eveyr helped me.

On this forum, your flamed me, and when I asked for critism, you say things like "9/10 - good." or "Its only an image, Why should I rate it"
What would be the point in making it into a site if people thought it was crap.

Also makign images is makign a website, its the visual appeaance, therefor it coutns as webdesign.

[Mentor]

By he stating that your a role model, it means you are because if yourposting this thread your telling others to abide by what you have wrote, which makes you a ' role mode '

I offer an alternaive view point, Im not trying to get people to follow me. Im trying to get them to see everything in a diffent light, and maybe see the logic behind it is better than what there already doing.
if i tell people a trick for there 9 times table, that doesnt make me a role modle, i just suggested another method of doing thing..

he does in his own way.

thybag has some tutorials and help on forum.

It is true, i put alot more effort in to helping people on thybag than i do on habbox "/ same for most people who ask nicely insted of just demaning stuff "/

Lets face it, people (use to) look up to you. How can you flame someone, and not expect them to think, "Well if he's doing it, why not."

I usealy give people more credit than i exstent to sheep "/

Question: if some n00b had posted this, how would you react?

Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Instead of flaming them, why not help them, seen as you seem so keen to help everyone all the time.

... Ok....
1) i very very rairly post my own work or ask for help here.
2) this is a help forum for webdesign.

If i didnt want to help people why the hell do you think i use this forum for?

Then you are at the start of the vicious triangle.

So if you think ive done wrong? why the hell are you trying to justifey doing the same?

You flamed me for a misconception about expandable tables, and didnt really help me that much. You just showed off, saying things I didnt understand. So thats the not helping others. Why should I help others if only 2 people eveyr helped me.

I insulted the idea of the tables, and exsplained why. The correct reaction would be to ask normal tables. The only time i get annoyed when people mention it, if is they clame they do know tables, which is then obvios there lieing about..

On this forum, your flamed me, and when I asked for critism, you say things like "9/10 - good." or "Its only an image, Why should I rate it"
What would be the point in making it into a site if people thought it was crap.

http://maddox.xmission.com/ that site gets over a million hits a day, its hilaursly funny, and i use it often? Do you realy think that layout is good?
Layouts arnt essental to a good website, I rate websites, which is the codeing, the website, not a pretty picture, want to do consept art? fine? see who likes em best in a graphics forum.

Refuse to do that? at least use the right forum to show them off, the show off your websites forum...

Also makign images is makign a website, its the visual appeaance, therefor it coutns as webdesign.

But still dosnt need support and hence goes in the show of your websites forum still...

[MattUH]

i almost feel sorry for Joe. having you all attacking him ;o

[JoeComins]

If everyone was equal, and had the same things, then we would run out of resources.

Why should I waste my time helping people when only 2 people helped me, when I could be trying to improve myself so I didnt get flamed all the time?

Do you hate people who constantly annoy you? Do you hate bees that sting you, and not the guy covered in honey next to you? Do you hate Nelly for knowing very little?

And for the me being wrong whatever I say when trying to help, if a 5 year old gets 4x8 wrong, do you tell it off. Do you scream bloody murder because he has troubles with adding? And why would putting orange squash in a glass before the water, even though someone else doesnt do it the same as you be wrong?