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    If someone doesn't want their room on the navigator list because they are unhappy with a small prize that was promised, then how is that a problem? Just remove the room from the list, and find another. There are plenty of entries for each country, so it wouldn't be terribly difficult to find a replacement. Part of the prize is getting your room in that category.
    Imagine emailing habbo and saying, "please remove my room from the around the world list, and replace it with another!" LOL i doubt they would even reply, let alone do that.

    I think pebblehab is right, we are not saying give rares, just the norms they choose seem to specifically be the worst ones. I made my room for fun not the prize, but some useful norms would have been better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pebblehab

    If you both re-read my post, you will see that I haven't said that they should be giving out rares - I just think that they could easily have come up with a way better prize. Admittedly, the rollers were ok, but, for example, why not a yukka or pineapple instead of a sunflower? A digital tv (or even a red tv!) instead of the old brown tv? Or better still, just award the runners up with 28 credits so they can choose their own furni from the catalogue? That would have been fine for a prize.
    And what I was getting at was that it is simply a matter of opinion. You don't like sunflowers; other people do. You don't like the TV; other people do. Last time I checked, you were not the one dictating the prizes. If you fancy doing that, go pick up a job application from Sulake. Habbo Staff frequently give out yukkas, pineapple plants, etc., so why not try something different? It's a "selection of Habbo furni". The phrase is ambiguous, so you should expect anything, and not assume that it is something that you will like. Different people have different likes and dislikes.
    I'm not complaining because they didn't win rares. My comment about habbo staff and the way they treat users, was a general comment, not specifically directed at the competition. If you were interested, I could give you a long list of problems over the last few months, that habbo staff have failed to address - other than to talk down to people and basically say "tough s**t"
    Again, you misread. I didn't say you were complaining because they didn't win rares. I said "The Habbo Staff are far from perfect, but they hardly mistreat their users when it comes to competitions." Did I mention the word "rare" in that sentence? Unless I'm going blind, then no. I acknowledged the fact that Habbo Staff are not perfect, but seeing as the topic you raised was regarding competitions and their prizes, I disagreed and said they were hardly mistreating us in this aspect. The Player Support is shoddy; but they are improving it. Competitions are not compulsory, and provided as and when appropriate. You cannot bring competitions into "amagadz Habbo Staff are mistreating us and I iz sick of it plz".

    If you think Habbo Staff are "mistreating us", then go into the Anything About Habbo Forum, click on Bobba, and have a nice rant deary. If I see them mistreating you, I'll make sure I give the RSPCA a call. ^_^ Quite frankly, that's how you're behaving - a spoilt little puppy. Problems that the "Habbo Staff have failed to address" is not necessarily mistreating their users. Using the Hotel is not compulsory, and if you are not satisfied with what Habbo is providing you with, they have added a nifty "Log Out" button on your Habbo client window. Quoting you, they (in general) have the right to say "tough s**t". If you have a problem with the service they offer, again - you know what to do.

    You both have anti FOMO bars in your sig line, so you are obviously aware of the problems with habbo staff!!!!!!!!! The simple fact is, they treat you like this, because they know they are dealing with children, so think they can get away with it. If they were dealing with 100% adults, they would never get away with the things that they do!
    *Sigh* Of course there are problems with Habbo. However, it's not necessarily the Habbo Staff! Please, the FOMO was Becs' and Ione's idea, and not all all of the Habbo Staff's. Some executive decisions made by Habbo and Sulake I disagree with occasionally, but it does not mean "there are problems with Habbo Staff". If you do wish to complain about the standards Habbo Staff are following, toddle off to the Bobba forum and have a good old rant. A majority of the Habbo playerbase consists of immature children/adolescents. Thus, Habbo Staff have to handle them accordingly, which also effects the mature members. If more of the players were mature teenagers, there would be less of a problem. However, last time I checked, you still get 13 year old boys running around saying "LOOKING FOR A STRIPPER PLS COZ I IZ HORNY!" If the majority of Habbos "grow up" all of a sudden, the Habbo Staff will act accordingly, and won't have to pretend all of them are immature testosterone filled idiots.
    You mean like .... Spain? Portugal? Poland? Denmark? Turkey? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Umm yeah right!

    Sorry, the poll results indicated all I needed to say. The majority of AtW rooms have been selected poorly, and I stand by my decision that Sid's deserved to get through. Memmish's would have also deserved it, because it was far more visually appealing than other rooms on that list.
    I do create many "theme" rooms, and I can honestly say, hand on heart, I have NEVER needed a sunflower or old brown tv!
    You might have figured it out by now, but I'm a heavily critical person. Guess what? I also like to criticise theme rooms and will rip them to pieces accordingly if I don't like their quality. Do I create theme rooms? Yes! I keep making and trashing, because the fun is in the creating them. If you are proud of your room, you should not want to bribe people with it - "I want a good prize or I will trash my room that's on the list". If you can't think of a use for sunflowers or old TVs, then you obviously lack imagination. Sunflower fields, summery rooms, rooms based in the 1950's, grungy rooms, grotty pubs, the list goes on...

    Obviously everyone entering hopes to win the main prize(s) - so of course they are going to trade to get the items they need.
    If you knew anything about creating theme rooms, you would know that you can't just work with what you have, you have to trade to get the necessary furni in most cases - and I doubt anyone created a room hoping to be a runner up!
    Dear, I can assure you I do know what you need to know about creating theme rooms. Hence, I am extremely critical of others, because I know what you need for a good room, I can never be bothered to make one myself, and it's much more fun being critical. No, you can't always work with what you have. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. However, trading does not need to be an expensive process. Look at the winner of group 1 - that is not an expensive room. It might take a little time to gather the pieces, but is not very expensive. If you did not want to be just runner up, and your room was not up to the standard that would put them in the following round, then you should have put a bit more effort it to make it more appealing than the winning room.

    Again ... like Spain, Portugal, etc ??? LOL ... Actually a friend posted two of my entries on this forum (Switzerland and Romania) - everyone on this forum that replied said they were awesome, and gave my Swiss room 10/10, and my dracula inner room 9/10 (although I didn't think they were that good!)

    http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=220550



    Like I said, I don't expect them to give rares out to the runners up (tho it would have been nice!), but they could have done a lot better in the prizes they gave - I still say they were an insult.

    Despite what you may think, I am not materialistic - I don't give a hoot about "who is worth what" or "how many thrones they have" - I haven't won any prizes, and am not especially bothered by that fact - I just feel bad for those that DID win
    Your Swiss room is good, I do not doubt that for a second. The outside Romania is average, IMO. I've certainly seen more impressive castles, and the only interesting point in that is the moon, which is a nice touch. Oh, but the inside of the castle... let's not go there. For a theme room designer such as yourself, it's a mess.

    You keep saying that they could have given better prizes. 72 people have got to get a runner up prize, so it can't be worth a lot. If it was only 10 rooms, then rare prizes would be viable. The prizes are based on opinion, and nothing else. The choice of furni is still a selection, and it's a change from what it usually given out. If you don't like what was offered, that is your opinion, but some people will. You can't please everyone - and unfortunately you were not pleased this time around. Part of the prize was getting your room in the category, lest you forget. The majority of the satisfaction should have come from building the room, and seeing it completed first time.

    In a competition of this size, a runner up prize does not warrant rares. Some people have an overestimation in what they are getting, which is partly Habbo's fault, seeing as they regularly would give more prizes than was initially stated. However, maybe they have clicked onto the fact that they are giving too much away, and I think they have picked a suitable prize. Manners and gratitude are something that have being missing of late, and some people would do well to learn them. (Yes, I need manners.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memmish
    Imagine emailing habbo and saying, "please remove my room from the around the world list, and replace it with another!" LOL i doubt they would even reply, let alone do that.

    I think pebblehab is right, we are not saying give rares, just the norms they choose seem to specifically be the worst ones. I made my room for fun not the prize, but some useful norms would have been better.
    No, but if you changed your room, it is likely that it would be removed from the list. I did not say contact Habbo asking them to remove it. I said that Habbo could quite easily remove it and replace it with another entry. On a positive note, at least you are not being as sour as Liam - even though you were so close you could sniff it.
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    Lol.


    Memmish i doubt your request will happen as its a strange one.

    You will remain in the europe group until its finished i assume.

    You could have got nothing i suppose.

    Congrats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barmi View Post
    The outside Romania is average, IMO. I've certainly seen more impressive castles
    I would agree with that comment - I did that room last minute and wasn't at all happy with the castle, but didn't have time to redo it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Barmi View Post
    I'll make sure I give the RSPCA a call.
    I am sure you are more than familiar with the RSPCA


    I own/run a forum Barmi, and we are quite clear on one thing - attack the message, not the messenger. It's sad that you have to resort to snide insults to the author, when you respond to posts

    If you aren't mature enough to debate a subject without sprinkling your replies with insults to someone you disagree with, then it really isn't worth responding to you.
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    Remember, when casting your vote you should be considering the creativity in the room and how well the room resembles the country it is based on.

    Check it out and vote for Cameroon in the ATW - thanks


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    Pebble, everyone on this forum attack people for anything and everything.

    It is a reason why i don't like coming on this forum

    So you should not just have a go at Barmi its unfair.

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    Krazyhouse - I haven't been on this forum very long, so I haven't seen any other "attacking" posts - the whole point of forums is meant to debate issues, not attack people.

    Barmi "had a go" at me, so I gave my opinion on her comments - sorry if you think that's unfair, but I would say the same to anyone who replied to me in the manner that she did. Would you rather I attacked him/her back and continued a ridiculous argument?

    On topic : The prizes still suck!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habbo ATW Poll Page
    Remember, when casting your vote you should be considering the creativity in the room and how well the room resembles the country it is based on.

    Check it out and vote for Cameroon in the ATW - thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by pebblehab View Post
    I would agree with that comment - I did that room last minute and wasn't at all happy with the castle, but didn't have time to redo it.




    I am sure you are more than familiar with the RSPCA


    I own/run a forum Barmi, and we are quite clear on one thing - attack the message, not the messenger. It's sad that you have to resort to snide insults to the author, when you respond to posts

    If you aren't mature enough to debate a subject without sprinkling your replies with insults to someone you disagree with, then it really isn't worth responding to you.
    Oh, I know. I am a frequent at many forums, and the majority of forums nowadays have the rule like you mentioned "respond to the post, not the poster". That's one thing which seperates Habbox Forum from others, is that comments that target the poster are rife.

    I see you do not hesitate to insult me back? If you read, I was insulting your behaviour, not you as a person. Re-read what I typed again, and you might understand. Commenting on your behaviour is quite different commenting on you as a person. There are loopholes to everything my dear, and as such a reputable forum owner, I would expect you are aware of each and every one of them, no? Besides, you made the general assumption that I didn't have a clue about theme rooms. Anyway, enough of this handbag throwing, my apologies.

    Oh, and maturity is something that always seems to be mentioned on these forums aswell. It's a forum, and the real me is hidden behind Barmi. Making judgements on my maturity is all well and good, because Barmi listens to that, not me. I am thoroughly aware of where my level of maturity lies, but I will not divulge you with such information.

    I also did not "sprinkle" my posts with insults. I was honest and upfront about what I thought of the nature of your behaviour, and if you as a person were offended by that, then I apologise.

    And dear, you're being hypocritical. If it isn't worth responding to me, then why did you do it? I can only see it as a loophole to avoid putting up a logical defense against what I said in my post.

    Anyway, I'm bored. I stand by my decision that the prize will not please everyone, but I am pleased to see Habbo give out a prize such as this, rather than the large extravagant ones we are used to. I still feel pity for Memmish though, because the margin between Memmish and Sid was so close.. Very unlucky, but good luck to anyone who enters in the next few categories! ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by pebblehab
    Krazyhouse - I haven't been on this forum very long, so I haven't seen any other "attacking" posts - the whole point of forums is meant to debate issues, not attack people.

    Barmi "had a go" at me, so I gave my opinion on her comments - sorry if you think that's unfair, but I would say the same to anyone who replied to me in the manner that she did. Would you rather I attacked him/her back and continued a ridiculous argument?

    On topic : The prizes still suck!!!
    Clearly, you did attack me back, hence the reason I said you were being hypocritical. And to clarify, the "whole point of forums" is to do what the hell you want, providing you stick to the rules. Forums are usually "discussion forums", and thus the rules dictate that.

    Secondly, I am not female. Why does everyone think I am female? (Note: There is a bit of a hint underneath my post count!)

    Would you like to explain exactly why the prizes "suck", on a generic level without bringing opinion into it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by krazyhouse View Post
    Lol.


    Memmish i doubt your request will happen as its a strange one.

    You will remain in the europe group until its finished i assume.

    You could have got nothing i suppose.

    Congrats

    i dont want to remove mine, il be keeping my room forever. I was just commenting on a previous comment saying that if you did ask habbo to do this, its unlikely they would, you could just shut your room, its not really a big deal!

    I'm not even moaning about the prize, i didnt expect the runners up prize to come at all.
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