infraction suggestion

[le harry]

But nobody actually goes off and cries because of being bullied on these forums do they :S I think issue a warning and then they PM the user asking if they want to take it further (infraction)

[LeftForDead]

But nobody actually goes off and cries because of being bullied on these forums do they :S I think issue a warning and then they PM the user asking if they want to take it further (infraction)

They may not show it, if they issue a caution straight away then they dont need to be looking out for it

[Catzsy]

Actually I distinctly remember a member of management saying that Moderators are here to remind users of the rules with friendly infractions and warnings, it is our job as Super Moderators to actually issue punishments i.e. cautions, bans etc.

Well Nick, I do feel these views make out that the job of a Moderator to be one of an enforcer and basically a traffic warden/prison officer. I would also love to know what member has ever found an infraction to be friendly! Lets hold a poll! (Joke). My view is the Mods are here to be here for the members in all sorts of positive ways not just enforcing the rules.

But nobody actually goes off and cries because of being bullied on these forums do they :S I think issue a warning and then they PM the user asking if they want to take it further (infraction)

I really think you would be surprised here, Aight. People forget that behind the posts are real people with real feelings. Some are more reserved than others and more sensitive. I have known members to be very genuinely affected by other members being insensitive and rude so the rules regarding this are really there for a very good reason.

[Nick-]

Just a bit of a joke in there, infractions are never friendly
Although the formal warning PMs we send serve as a partial reminder before any sort of mark goes on a users record.
I didnt say that enforcement was all Moderators are here for, answering questions, assisting new users, etc etc, I'm sure you're well aware of what we do, unfortunately there are usually more users breaking rules than asking for help.

MAD has now asked us to look much more thoroughly into any incident of bullying by PMing the user in question before taking any sort of action.

[Catzsy]

Just a bit of a joke in there, infractions are never friendly
Although the formal warning PMs we send serve as a partial reminder before any sort of mark goes on a users record.
I didnt say that enforcement was all Moderators are here for, answering questions, assisting new users, etc etc, I'm sure you're well aware of what we do, unfortunately there are usually more users breaking rules than asking for help.

MAD has now asked us to look much more thoroughly into any incident of bullying by PMing the user in question before taking any sort of action.

Nicely Clarified, Nick. =] The other post was somewhat open to misinterpretation. 3

[Sly]

My infractions are always friendly there always like

Hey sxc owz it goin just fort id nip by and leave u this infraction xoxo don`t worry just report it n i`ll get a smod to secretly remove it 4 u darling

[---MAD---]

Mods and smods will judge whether someone is joking or not. If they feel they are not joking, the infraction/warning will be given as appropriate. If they are joking around, no action will be taken however if a member is offended by their post, they can report it, so can other members.

I must remind you however, a joke that insulting such as being racist or anything like that will be infracted whether joking or not. That sort of nature will not be accepted at Habbox Forum.

Thanks
MAD

[nvrspk4]

Too much time my ****. Some of you are just lazy

And the last time you've been a Super Moderator and dealt with their current workload was...?

Working aint supposed to be easy

Correct. However the mods and super mods aren't "working". Because when you work, you get paid. They do it as volunteers


My issue with this, and I raised this issue in the mod forum, is the possibility of abuse from bullies themselves. What happens if a bully pressures a forum member into having the infraction reversed for them? I can very easily see a couple of spam forum members (and though some of you are lovely, there are/were some nasty ones in the past and present, I won't name them but I'm sure you could name a few) putting pressure on a bullied member to PM a SMod and say "oh we were just joking around". In that way, this could be abused and lead towards further abuse of the bullied member. So I'm worried about the possibility that someone might get pressured into putting up with it with this system.

Just my opinion

[Catzsy]

And the last time you've been a Super Moderator and dealt with their current workload was...?



Correct. However the mods and super mods aren't "working". Because when you work, you get paid. They do it as volunteers


My issue with this, and I raised this issue in the mod forum, is the possibility of abuse from bullies themselves. What happens if a bully pressures a forum member into having the infraction reversed for them? I can very easily see a couple of spam forum members (and though some of you are lovely, there are/were some nasty ones in the past and present, I won't name them but I'm sure you could name a few) putting pressure on a bullied member to PM a SMod and say "oh we were just joking around". In that way, this could be abused and lead towards further abuse of the bullied member. So I'm worried about the possibility that someone might get pressured into putting up with it with this system.

Just my opinion

Right on the money =] They are more likely to say no and suffer in silence.
As a mod you get to know whether somebody is joking or not even if they put a after it. If I wasn't sure I would ask another mod for their opinion on it and management if necessary.

[---MAD---]

My issue with this, and I raised this issue in the mod forum, is the possibility of abuse from bullies themselves. What happens if a bully pressures a forum member into having the infraction reversed for them? I can very easily see a couple of spam forum members (and though some of you are lovely, there are/were some nasty ones in the past and present, I won't name them but I'm sure you could name a few) putting pressure on a bullied member to PM a SMod and say "oh we were just joking around". In that way, this could be abused and lead towards further abuse of the bullied member. So I'm worried about the possibility that someone might get pressured into putting up with it with this system.

Just my opinion

As I said in the moderator forum, the mod/smod do not have to contact the member at all.

The difference made here is that before even if you were joking around but still targetted the member, you got infracted or warned. Now, the mod / smod will judge whether or not the person meant it seriously or jokingly. What the mod/smod decides will stick.