Rare river dolphin 'now extinct'

[reindeer.]

Global Warming is a load of bull.
It's an excuse to put fuel prices up, charge us more tax on our bins (ie. putting chips in them to check how much rubbish we put in), charge us more tax on anything else they can think of, and what's more, we're not even causing it.
It's natural and the planet is in a cycle - the ice age isn't over until all the snow is gone.

[FlyingJesus]

Simply, no.

I usually agree with you about stuff but not this. It's definitely natural to care more for your own kind than another species.

[hobo]

you try escaping huge fishing nets, oil polluting your home etc etc?

i don't think i need to worry about that

Global Warming is a load of bull.
It's an excuse to put fuel prices up, charge us more tax on our bins (ie. putting chips in them to check how much rubbish we put in), charge us more tax on anything else they can think of, and what's more, we're not even causing it.
It's natural and the planet is in a cycle - the ice age isn't over until all the snow is gone.

yeah global warming is normal but the fuel prices has nothing to do with that, it's because our finite resources are running out.. i think.

[FlyingJesus]

Every time you post here it makes the title look like "delicious river dolphin"

[velocity]

Global Warming is a load of bull.
It's an excuse to put fuel prices up, charge us more tax on our bins (ie. putting chips in them to check how much rubbish we put in), charge us more tax on anything else they can think of, and what's more, we're not even causing it.
It's natural and the planet is in a cycle - the ice age isn't over until all the snow is gone.

can you read, or are you just stupid?

In reply to your points, fuel prices are up due to a high demand and slowly decresing supplies. Also, rubbish has nothing to do with global warming whatsoever, thats only because we have nowhere to put it all? Yeah, we may not be causing all of it. we're speeding up the process of that 'natural cycle' of yours.

[Virgin Mary]

I usually agree with you about stuff but not this. It's definitely natural to care more for your own kind than another species.

I mean the extinction of a species will have a greater impact in the long run than the death of a single human, unless they were going to become Einstein or something.

[Ezzie.]

I don't think he needs to argue with you, you have already made a stupid comment in the quote I have of you from above. You say we are not causing yet, because global warming and cooling is a global issue, yet you seem to also think we're also causing it, as in, global warming would not be happening.

Erm? Have you discovered logic yet? Apparently not.. anyways: what i'm saying is that some parts i agree with undertaker- global warming/cooling HAPPENS, but we are speeding it up/making it alot worse with all the pollutants we're putting into the atmosphere.

The fact there is no proof as to humans actually speeding it up is another matter. It is actually healtheir for the environment if you drive to the shops instead of walk, because the food you have eaten has probably caused more pollution than the car you are driving in has ever done in a week.

err...yeah.. so if everybody all quit walking - more congestion, more milage, more oil used up, also did you factor in the making of the cars?

If you eat beef, then well, cows are one of the biggest culprits to global warming

Go vegetarian? :eusa_whis

and if you eat fruit or veg, then that fruit or veg most likely has come from another country e.g. New Zealand.

Easy solution. Buy local produce and don't buy from supermarkets if you want to lower the carbon footprint

Who is to say that polar bears didn't simply survive global warming the last time? Were you there? No. Did polar bears even exist before or during the last global warming era? The last global effect as far as I am aware was the Ice Age, which a polar bear is built to withstand, unless it is a pretty rubbish species.

But it's a thing to think about, learning from how animals survived a "global warming" (if one happened, there were ice ages so it's likely that the world heated up? it depends how much though) and an ice age could help us.

Long story short, creatures become extinct, and a polar bear is in the long run nothing to care about. It means nothing to this planet, other than something seen in zoos, post cards, cartoons. I don't see polar bears solving their problems and they're pretty dense creatures anyway, considering one swam 50 miles and decided to attack a group of walrus' only to lose the fight and crawl on a rock and just die. They're hardly smart animals "/

Erm.. you clearly haven't learned about an ecosystem have you? Even if you remove a species of insect, it could have huge impacts on the enviroments ecosystem, wiping out many species.

The same goes with the dolphin, sure they're clever in comparison, but they mean nothing in the long run, they solve nothing or do anything for the planet, other than a food source for the species higher up in the food chain or a dumb animal that likes to get caught. That's life, live with it.

again read up on ecosystems , removing a predators source of food could again wipe out that species, so even more species, is it just me or would you happily have a world where only humans lived and we all lived in a glass box with no trees, no animals?

So what do you suggest the planet does to save it? Not re-populate the lakes, oceans, sea and rivers? Oh well, at least they tried "/ And also, we cannot bring back extinct animals, so that last comment was utter rubbish and stupidly added for no reason what so ever. I shall try bringing back the Wooly Mammoth now

I never said bring back extinct animals, near extinct animals yes, i thought you'd have enough common sense to make that assumption..

and repopulating lakes and rivers wouldnt be incredibly hard.. but try restocking an ocean which is the main supply of fish..

Then keep it in zoos or sanctuaries. You seem to dislike polar bears if you do not wish to help them. Your idea is let them die and blame others, rather than try something to help them.

I dislike polar bears if i do not wish to help them? erm.. what? have you missed what i've been typing?
Also if it's any news for you one of my main objectives is to help with conservation of animals when i'm older :rolleyes:

Isn't it a natural feeling to care about your own species first, than other species?

yes i suppose, but when whole species are being wiped out and we're the primary cause of it then we should give a damn about them, we should give a damn about them anyway as we're all living on this planet, if a more "advanced" alien species landed on our planet and treated us like we treat animals just because "we're not as intelligent as them so what should they care"?

[GommeInc]

Erm? Have you discovered logic yet? Apparently not.. anyways: what i'm saying is that some parts i agree with undertaker- global warming/cooling HAPPENS, but we are speeding it up/making it alot worse with all the pollutants we're putting into the atmosphere.

Yes, and it is logical to accept Global Warming does and will happen and what you said was illogical becuase you conflicted your arguments, suggesting global warming is caused by us yet you say it isn't at the same time. Jeez, you're so mentally deluded that you seem to act violent to get your point across, where it leaves you making daft comments "/

There is one type of global warming, called GLOBAL WARMING. The pollutants are only slightly adding to it and suggesting we stop driving, cows farting etc won't stop it happening. Most of the gases/pollutants going in the air are in fact coming from natural sources. The major culprit is already mentioned.

err...yeah.. so if everybody all quit walking - more congestion, more milage, more oil used up, also did you factor in the making of the cars?

Did you add to the fact that planes cost the environment more to build? They use more oil than cars? Use up way more milage than cars? The congestion is the only down point and I am not suggesting you actually do start driving than walking, it was an example. Fool. Local produce and relying on it is impossible.

Go vegetarian? :eusa_whis

No thank you, I like meat and you are suggesting we lets cows just die and leave it at that. I and many other people could eat it so it doesn't go to waste "/

Easy solution. Buy local produce and don't buy from supermarkets if you want to lower the carbon footprint

Again, impossible. Strawberries would only be on shelves for a week because there is a large demand nowadays, thus we ship them in from other countries. Bananas aren't easy to grow in the UK unless you waste land by making green house like warehouses.

But it's a thing to think about, learning from how animals survived a "global warming" (if one happened, there were ice ages so it's likely that the world heated up? it depends how much though) and an ice age could help us.

We're humans, we are pretty much set for global warming, other than the people living close the sea. You never know, polar bears may evolve into some naked bear. Imagine Mr. Bigglesworth from Austin Powers but in bear form.

Erm.. you clearly haven't learned about an ecosystem have you? Even if you remove a species of insect, it could have huge impacts on the enviroments ecosystem, wiping out many species.

Actually I have, because wiping out one insect actually means nothing. One species can rely upon another food source. For example, a Red Tail hawk comes from America, and relied on eating rodents. How comes my brothers ones eat chicks? That isn't a natural diet "/ So for example, a soon to be extinct frog has a type of fly removed from it's diet, it could eat a different type of fly/insect.

Another example you may know of is lions in zoos, they eat Antelope in the wild yet they eat beef or food donated from super markets.

again read up on ecosystems , removing a predators source of food could again wipe out that species, so even more species, is it just me or would you happily have a world where only humans lived and we all lived in a glass box with no trees, no animals?

And you should look further into it, they are capable of finding another food source. The dolphin was hunted by man, they can eat different types of animal or go towards plants etc. You seem to believe animals reply on just one food source "/

I never said bring back extinct animals, near extinct animals yes, i thought you'd have enough common sense to make that assumption..

So why say "we'd also have to account for every single species of fish in the ocean that we've wiped out/nearly wiped out etc etc." What was the point putting 'wiped out' in there "/

and repopulating lakes and rivers wouldnt be incredibly hard.. but try restocking an ocean which is the main supply of fish..

Since when was there 1 fish per square foot in the ocean?! To re-populate the oceans of fish, you introduce them to one area, now each and every square foot of the ocean. Jeez.

I dislike polar bears if i do not wish to help them? erm.. what? have you missed what i've been typing?
Also if it's any news for you one of my main objectives is to help with conservation of animals when i'm older :rolleyes:

Because you seem to think an animal must live in its habitat or die trying. Zoos and sanctuarys cater for issues with natural habitats, by making a new one or grabbing ideas for its current habitat. Barn Owls are rare, yet Suffolk Owl Sanctuary makes them happy and gives them a place to live, by making averies that make them feel like they are in a barn, which is one of the major places they like to live in.

If you do not know about sanctuaries, I suggest you stop your dream of helping animals out in the future, now.

yes i suppose, but when whole species are being wiped out and we're the primary cause of it then we should give a damn about them, we should give a damn about them anyway as we're all living on this planet, if a more "advanced" alien species landed on our planet and treated us like we treat animals just because "we're not as intelligent as them so what should they care"?

Again, we're not the primary cause, we're just aiding it speeding up. It is a natural cause for the planet to heat up thus changing the surroundings of animals. The only time we're numer one cause is when we physically go to a habitat and destroy it, like cutting down whole forests. Driving a car and cutting down a tree with eggs in are totally different.

Heck, if we can't look after ourselves, why bother? If aliens are intent on ruining our lives, that is again different than driving a car or going on a tour around the world using planes. We're not randomly going up to sheep and kicking them now, are we?

[Eye!]

You fish and kill everything ;l

Thats quite sterotypical of canadians. You can't say we all fish and kill everything. I do agree that some of the coastline provinces do but thats how they make money, you can't just blame it on other countries, especially when the stuff coming from you is false, seeing as this dolphin lives in china, and canada, shockingly, isn't in china

[Mark-Face]

Global Warming is a load of bull.

Actually, global warming has been proven. It's just more of a fact that they are hyping it up with the media.

It's an excuse to put fuel prices up

You might be thinking the Iraq war.