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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Because the system before hand had no issues. None at all. This new system with a spambot which clearly is causing concerns is no better than the old system where ANYONE can post a news report. You may aswell suggest to nvr that the News Forums are closed and members can only read and reply to threads, and not create any. At least it'll make the forum less of a mess than it is now :/

    A pointless change if you ask me, one brought to existence with no real purpose other than to annoy, which seems to be working :/ The discussions won't even improve either, people enjoyed talking in an informal environment.
    Anyone still can post a report, Habbox Reporters dont post EVERY single report which you will have seen if you visit the site. Members can still have good discussions in which they are.

    I wonder if the bot was called something else people would have less problems with it. It isn't a spam bot. It is like the Habbox Reporters c+ping there report into a thread like most users c+p reports from Habbo for threads.

    People who post in the threads seems to enjoy it and can it not still be an informal enviroment?

    I think this is getting blown up out of proportion a little bit.
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    Again I answered, "Just having a quick ****... How about yourself?"
    Then I heard him say "Sorry, mate, I'll have to call you back. I've got some **** in the cubicle next to me answering everything I say."

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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Because the system before hand had no issues. None at all. This new system with a spambot which clearly is causing concerns is no better than the old system where ANYONE can post a news report. You may aswell suggest to nvr that the News Forums are closed and members can only read and reply to threads, and not create any. At least it'll make the forum less of a mess than it is now :/

    A pointless change if you ask me, one brought to existence with no real purpose other than to annoy, which seems to be working :/ The discussions won't even improve either, people enjoyed talking in an informal environment.
    The old system isn't being removed what the bot does is exactly the same as what a non-member can do but it is worded better. I am not going to apologise simply because the reports my reporters place are different to the usual one liners or copy and pasted ones you see. Please don't call it a spambot because it degrades the quality of reports work because they work really hard in ensuring the reports are top standard. Spam would be the bot posting ZOMG NEW FURNI!!11. Members can still create threads, the only time the bot posts anything is when the reporters do so a situation would occur where a fully-fledged discussion was already in place by the time the RSS has kicked in. It just so happens that a couple of times the reporters have gotten in there first.

    To say that it was bought in with no purpose is very narrow-minded and a poor comment because you didn't see the discussion that was had before hand. To speak on behalf of the entire forum is kind of big headed because I've recieved a lot of positive feedback about the bot and yes, it has had its fair share of negative feedback but it goes down to personal preference. I have no issue with people regarding it as a nuisance but what I do take task with is people saying it was introduced to annoy and saying that it is spam because it isn't. You make it sound as if there are going to be 7/8 reports a day from the bot. There isn't! And the bot posts allow discussion to be informal... the way the text is worded perhaps isn't as simple as usual but you can still discuss them in the usual manner as the forum rules don't change.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Favourtism View Post
    Anyone still can post a report, Habbox Reporters dont post EVERY single report which you will have seen if you visit the site. Members can still have good discussions in which they are.

    I wonder if the bot was called something else people would have less problems with it. It isn't a spam bot. It is like the Habbox Reporters c+ping there report into a thread like most users c+p reports from Habbo for threads.

    People who post in the threads seems to enjoy it and can it not still be an informal enviroment?

    I think this is getting blown up out of proportion a little bit.
    At least with a reporter c&p'ing their news they'll have their name appear and get full recognition with it. Which brings on the new point, no-one's going to get rep points from good news articles now. It'll all be directed at a glorified spambot (which it appears to be). It's not that some people enjoy it, it's the fact that not everyone is enjoying it. At least the system before everyone enjoyed it and there were no flaws, and the reporters got recognition on the site. Heck, you don't HAVE to go up to a news reporter, pat them on the back and give them a patronising pep talk. Why do they need recognition anyway? Do they sit alone at night crying for it? Seems not. Not all departments get full recoginition and credability, so why input a bot to report news when the previous system was better?

    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslyGrey View Post
    The old system isn't being removed what the bot does is exactly the same as what a non-member can do but it is worded better. I am not going to apologise simply because the reports my reporters place are different to the usual one liners or copy and pasted ones you see. Please don't call it a spambot because it degrades the quality of reports work because they work really hard in ensuring the reports are top standard. Spam would be the bot posting ZOMG NEW FURNI!!11. Members can still create threads, the only time the bot posts anything is when the reporters do so a situation would occur where a fully-fledged discussion was already in place by the time the RSS has kicked in. It just so happens that a couple of times the reporters have gotten in there first.

    To say that it was bought in with no purpose is very narrow-minded and a poor comment because you didn't see the discussion that was had before hand. To speak on behalf of the entire forum is kind of big headed because I've recieved a lot of positive feedback about the bot and yes, it has had its fair share of negative feedback but it goes down to personal preference. I have no issue with people regarding it as a nuisance but what I do take task with is people saying it was introduced to annoy and saying that it is spam because it isn't. You make it sound as if there are going to be 7/8 reports a day from the bot. There isn't! And the bot posts allow discussion to be informal... the way the text is worded perhaps isn't as simple as usual but you can still discuss them in the usual manner as the forum rules don't change.
    The old system has been removed, it's turned anti-social all of a sudden. It is a spam bot, spambots are there to annoy, no matter how bad or good the quality of the spam it is posting. I have spam in my email, it's written well but it is still spam :/ You know nothing about spam it seems :/ It was brought in with no purpose, it's narrow minded of you to not realise there were no problems with the system before the bot came into practice. You may have positive feedback, BUT there were NO flaws with the system before hand. It worked well, but for some reason the idea that news reporters didn't get recognition is more important than a system which no errors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    At least with a reporter c&p'ing their news they'll have their name appear and get full recognition with it. Which brings on the new point, no-one's going to get rep points from good news articles now. It'll all be directed at a glorified spambot (which it appears to be). It's not that some people enjoy it, it's the fact that not everyone is enjoying it. At least the system before everyone enjoyed it and there were no flaws, and the reporters got recognition on the site. Heck, you don't HAVE to go up to a news reporter, pat them on the back and give them a patronising pep talk. Why do they need recognition anyway? Do they sit alone at night crying for it? Seems not. Not all departments get full recoginition and credability, so why input a bot to report news when the previous system was better?
    It isn't about recognition for their name and I don't expect everyone to go OH WELL DONE to every reporter but readership of the reports was previously extremely low. Literally 20 views a report. This has now increased on the reports the bot has posted so already it is working.

    I have never once said the old system is flawed and there isn't a 'new system' just think of the bot as another member! News is still being posted and discussion still happen. The only difference is, is that the bot gets its own prefix.

    Also why do they need recognition? Because they volunteer for this job and it would be nice for them to know people actually read their work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    At least with a reporter c&p'ing their news they'll have their name appear and get full recognition with it. Which brings on the new point, no-one's going to get rep points from good news articles now. It'll all be directed at a glorified spambot (which it appears to be). It's not that some people enjoy it, it's the fact that not everyone is enjoying it. At least the system before everyone enjoyed it and there were no flaws, and the reporters got recognition on the site. Heck, you don't HAVE to go up to a news reporter, pat them on the back and give them a patronising pep talk. Why do they need recognition anyway? Do they sit alone at night crying for it? Seems not. Not all departments get full recoginition and credability, so why input a bot to report news when the previous system was better?
    I have already said it would be nice to get the reporters name in the post and I will be discussing this with Grey and Nvr later on. However, this doesnt mean that we would like everyone to go AMG I LUV U , WELL DUN FOR POSTING etc.

    The point of having it was that not a lot of people checked Habbox for news when they could just check out the forum so we are providing (now) a news service for site regulars and forum regulars. They can both get the great quality reports now and the discussion can still be there.

    No, I suspect they don't cry and night because their reports deserve more credability but that doesnt mean they shouldnt have it.

    Users can still post reports as per usual, it's just the Habbox Reports are also posted there incase someone doesn't post about it, to recap it as often threads are just c+ped from Habbo and arent that interesting amongst other things.

    This isnt a new system and isnt flawed, its the old "system" with a "member" posting reports that have been posted on the site.
    Last edited by Favourtism; 02-10-2008 at 04:34 PM.
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    Again I answered, "Just having a quick ****... How about yourself?"
    Then I heard him say "Sorry, mate, I'll have to call you back. I've got some **** in the cubicle next to me answering everything I say."

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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    At least with a reporter c&p'ing their news they'll have their name appear and get full recognition with it. Which brings on the new point, no-one's going to get rep points from good news articles now. It'll all be directed at a glorified spambot (which it appears to be). It's not that some people enjoy it, it's the fact that not everyone is enjoying it. At least the system before everyone enjoyed it and there were no flaws, and the reporters got recognition on the site. Heck, you don't HAVE to go up to a news reporter, pat them on the back and give them a patronising pep talk. Why do they need recognition anyway? Do they sit alone at night crying for it? Seems not. Not all departments get full recoginition and credability, so why input a bot to report news when the previous system was better?


    The old system has been removed, it's turned anti-social all of a sudden. It is a spam bot, spambots are there to annoy, no matter how bad or good the quality of the spam it is posting. I have spam in my email, it's written well but it is still spam :/ You know nothing about spam it seems :/ It was brought in with no purpose, it's narrow minded of you to not realise there were no problems with the system before the bot came into practice. You may have positive feedback, BUT there were NO flaws with the system before hand. It worked well, but for some reason the idea that news reporters didn't get recognition is more important than a system which no errors.
    OK. This is getting silly now because I keep repeating myself. There is no 'new' system. The bot simply acts as a member posting news. If you want to go ahead and post some news right now go ahead and do it! It doesn't effect the forum at all. If people want to reply to bot posts they can if they want and that doesn't mean they can't reply to member-posted posts. It is exactly the same as myself posting in the forum. No difference. You don't even have to read the bot posts if you don't wish but some people do want to because they haven't heard about the topic yet perhaps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslyGrey View Post
    It isn't about recognition for their name and I don't expect everyone to go OH WELL DONE to every reporter but readership of the reports was previously extremely low. Literally 20 views a report. This has now increased on the reports the bot has posted so already it is working.

    I have never once said the old system is flawed and there isn't a 'new system' just think of the bot as another member! News is still being posted and discussion still happen. The only difference is, is that the bot gets its own prefix.

    Also why do they need recognition? Because they volunteer for this job and it would be nice for them to know people actually read their work.
    The point is, it's not a new member. It has no brain and doesn't discuss it's reports with you and you can't associate with it. It's just like a spam bot Also, if news reporters want recognition, I dread to think what Habbox's next idea is for giving the Moderation Team recognition, and they do more than News Reporters :S

    And there is a new system, or an edited system depending on your preference for saying these things. Simply because multiple threads now have to contend with a bot. That doesn't sound like an un-touched system to me :/ If a reporter posts, it's forced onto the forum and discredits any posts before it based on the same topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Favourtism View Post
    The point of having it was that not a lot of people checked Habbox for news when they could just check out the forum so we are providing (now) a news service for site regulars and forum regulars. They can both get the great quality reports now and the discussion can still be there.
    In that case, surely it would be better for it to have it's own subforum since it's threads will get lost amongst members threads? For the members who dislike it, an option to hide its threads wouldn't be a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    The point is, it's not a new member. It has no brain and doesn't discuss it's reports with you and you can't associate with it. It's just like a spam bot Also, if news reporters want recognition, I dread to think what Habbox's next idea is for giving the Moderation Team recognition, and they do more than News Reporters :S
    If you look, the news reporter who has posted the report on the site usually discusses in the thread about it. The RSS feed is a shortcut to actually posting ourselves.

    Moderation do a lot yes and I wish they did get more recognition but I don't work in moderation, moderation isn't my problem.


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    Personally, I preferred it without the bots.

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