That's enough. Down with Opera!

[Jam]

IE7 all the way.

[Jordy]

Passed onto the consumer?! Surely it'll be chucked into a pit with other wasted income on the EU

I probably am thinking of Netscape, would be odd if FF is based on Opera

Oh what I meant by the consumer was that it would then affect the quality of Microsoft's products or that their prices would be put up once again.

As for the EU spending the money that's another thing, like you said 'it'll be chucked into a pit with other wasted income'.

[Berch]

Oh what I meant by the consumer was that it would then affect the quality of Microsoft's products or that their prices would be put up once again.

As for the EU spending the money that's another thing, like you said 'it'll be chucked into a pit with other wasted income'.

Yeah thought so I posted that but is on other page

[GommeInc]

Oh what I meant by the consumer was that it would then affect the quality of Microsoft's products or that their prices would be put up once again.

As for the EU spending the money that's another thing, like you said 'it'll be chucked into a pit with other wasted income'.

Ahhh I see now! It would probably have some effect on pricing and consumer confidence... If it does, what exactly have the EU/Opera won from this? A more expensive product and people not buying it... Not very wise. To be fair, they should complain about Apple too, or Microsoft should say that IE8 is their product, the OS is theirs and if they don't like it, tough.

[Chippiewill]

I read something the other day about the EU fining the UK for not giving enough support to consumers... as if fining is going to help...

The EU is making a while tripe of stupid judgements nowadays.... The only good bit from the EU so far is the Euro, for global unifictation I go with UN...

[Barmi]

Jewish Bear, I did have a fair bit of respect for you. You have now lost all such credibility.

Have any of you actually read the related thread? Seriously, fammie & co. are right. The JCXP logic is flawed fanboism.

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...-wait-what.ars

[Jordy]

Jewish Bear, I did have a fair bit of respect for you. You have now lost all such credibility.

Have any of you actually read the related thread? Seriously, fammie & co. are right. The JCXP logic is flawed fanboism.

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...-wait-what.ars

Opera is a business and they did start it. Mozilla is not a business and therefore aren't complaining to make profits and Google's browser is open-source and they technically don't make anything from Chrome.

[Barmi]

Opera is a business and they did start it. Mozilla is not a business and therefore aren't complaining to make profits and Google's browser is open-source and they technically don't make anything from Chrome.

Opera don't decide whether another business is acting illegally. Opera is perfectly within its legal rights (just as any other body) to report behaviour which breaches anti-trust law.

If the EU/EC find Microsoft's actions in breach of anti-trust law, that's not Opera's fault. They just followed up on a general moral obligation to complain against illegal behaviour; backed up by many other bodies in the industry.

[Jordy]

Opera don't decide whether another business is acting illegally. Opera is perfectly within its legal rights (just as any other body) to report behaviour which breaches anti-trust law.

If the EU/EC find Microsoft's actions in breach of anti-trust law, that's not Opera's fault. They just followed up on a general moral obligation to complain against illegal behaviour; backed up by many other bodies in the industry.

They are completely within their rights I agree however as a consumer I do not believe they are benefiting us, quite the opposite infact therefore we're boycotting them because they're putting us at the inconvenience of browsers in Windows 7.

They are not doing it for the consumer, they're doing it for their shareholders, it is inconveniencing me and frankly they are pushing their luck with the already unpredictable EU business laws.

I also do not believe Mozilla or Google would start this themselves, supporting a case and starting it is quite different.

[Chippiewill]

As already stated, mozilla and Chrome are back benchers... they want it to happen so that they can get a leg in however how would you like it if some random part had to be in your computer so it's fair on the person who made it. It makes no sense... All Opera are doing is whining over the falling market-share, nearly all their current users are foreign as well meaning less money from however they get money.(From a quick twitter search of Opera, in which I found only one tweet in english).

Also the only reason why Opera isn't moaning At Apple for the only browser of a Mac basically being Safari is because Opera don't make a browser for Mac...

Hmmm....

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