Nicholas Sarkozy to 'ban muslim veils'

[GommeInc]

Not to mention the fact that we are legally and officially a Christian country

Indeed, yet apparently no-one wants to be, even though it's not forced down our throats every second of the day

[Robbie]

I think this is a completely wrong descision, no matter how much I dislike people wearing them, I think people should be free to wear whatever they want.

On the subject of immigration, I've no problems with immigration really, as long as the immigrants pay into the system and aren't just sponging, thats when they should be just removed from the country and not be permitted back.

As Jack was saying with Australia, they have a fantastic immigration system and have plenty of measures in place to stop spongers etc, for example you get no benefits etc from Centrelink until you are a citizen and to become a citizen you must have lived in Australia and worked in Australia in a SOL job for three years (shorter if your job is MODL or CSL) and accept the values etc.

I do, however believe that if everyone was like Australia in terms of immigration policies, we'd be ******. We need some countries to have less strict rules for the world to work, some countries need immigration and migrants to survive, all countries are interdependent. (not all the time, and I don't mean just open the floodgates and let every Tom, **** and Mohammed in the country). I'd feel awful if I was discriminated against, especially as an immigrant (which I will be in a few years on an Australian 417 visa, moving to a 457 and then lastly on to an 856 and applying for citizenship, or I could just go for the straight 175 visa. ANYWAY thats offtopic so..)

They are also the reasons I am against the BNP in every way.

[Wahey]

Immediately banned from any political debate for thinking Sarkozy is an MP

Meh, not into politics. I can live with it
Anyways i stand by his decision

[Niall!]

Maybe you should ask your French neighbours that considering you are an immigrant in their country.

You didn't even read my post, I stated that people that impose their traditions on people shouldn't be allowed to stay in the country, whereas people like me don't try to force anything on the French.

[Robbie]

You didn't even read my post, I stated that people that impose their traditions on people shouldn't be allowed to stay in the country, whereas people like me don't try to force anything on the French.

I agree on that. I know in my previous post I said people should be allowed to wear what they want, and I stand by that, but forcing beliefs and traditions upon someone/people/a country is just wrong and shouldn't be allowed anywhere, think of Jehova's Witnesses, damn annoying.

The point of religous freedom is to allow people to believe in what they like etc but forcing beliefs upon someone is wrong.

So I agree with you :8

[Browney]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090622...s-b3150e0.html

Bloody good on him too, wish our PM would start doing stuff like this, and stop worrying about 'offending people' :/

loving the quote in your sig about racial unity ands you being the one to post this.

its good to find someone who has a backbone literally.

I'm pretty sure I literally have a backbone...
Also, in your point about discriminating kids in trackies, they themselves choose to wear the uniform of the yob. The intimidator of many, the mass hate figure, which sends a message to people: I'm one of the crowd who throw bricks at houses. Now, they can't play the ******* scapegoat with me, as they choose those clothes, whereas burkhas are required, so don't give me that ****.

I could run for Prime Minister and I would win you know.

I agree with many people that the society in UK is now such that we can't even fly our flag without people claiming racism. If I were Prime Minister, I would tell them to learn the traditions of our country and if they refuse because of religion, I would tell them to get out.

I agree with this, we show their traditions respect, I would hope they could do the same by learning about some traditions of ours and hopefully having a greater respect for such traditions.

I think the full burkah where there is a only slits for the eyes is disgusting and shows no respect to the women at all.

I thought they wear them to stop the men getting tempted?

australia has got the immigration crack on, we need to learn from them and stop just letting anyone in.

We need to learn from Australia, not sure they have it dead on but yeah.

Fair play to him for speaking what everyone is thinking though, least he's got balls, unlike our Scottish idiot.

Scottish idiot? But "Go Murray!" right?

nah, my opinion is, he's wrong. You can say hes right because muslims are forcing their beliefs on us, but as soon as their traditions and a part of their very religion is banned, then who is forcing their beliefs on others? and tbh, seeing a woman walk down the street in full dress and headscarf doesn't phase me or force anything on me at all. alot of huff over nothing.

[dirrty]

this is just preposterous. it's the hijab which covers a womans head, as the burka only covers their body. muslim women cover themselves mainly to restrict attention from men based upon their looks. in addition, muslim men wear a dishdash which covers their body so the other difference between men & women is that womens faces are sometimes covered and mens arent.

also, the qu'ran says that they should dress accordingly so therefore muslims will follow what the qu'ran says as its their holy book. same with christians following the bibles teachings they both (and all religions) believe that following their holy book and using it for their way of life will benefit them in the after-life or whatever they believe will happen once they die.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Could you imagine if someone tried this in the United Kingdom?. In the 2005 General Election Michael Howard (Conservative Leader) was named racist by the Labour Party for campaigning for a limit and for some control in regards to immigration. In regards to Sarkozy; congratulations to him, he is not racist - he is supporting French values, something the politicians need to do in this country, just like they do all around the world.