Suggestion to bring in more members.

[StefanWolves]

How about handing leaflets out in school. I'd be willing to take this up.

bless you

[nvrspk4]

well not really... they are viewing the forum so that means they want to be hear. Dunno why someone would view and read news on a forum they dont want to be on :S:S:

And why are you baseing everything around habbo news??? :S im sure people look at threads other than that

Yeah you're right, I should have said that better. What I mean (and I think someone put it better in the middle of this thread) is that message can annoy people, their registration is no longer a choice but a necessity.

Whether that matters or not could be debated, I think its the initial tone you set with the users and that will color their experience.

Habbo News was just the example I chose to give instead of dealing in abstract, I did mention "other stuff" I just wanted to give an example to keep it from being abstract and confusing.

To be honest, why SHOULDN'T this be implemented? it only has benefits, and that's more users, and potentially, more active users.

There are reasons that FlyingJesus and myself brought up. And there's a key difference here, it won't result in more active users it will result in more active registered members. However, if these registered members never post anyway, does it really matter whether they are a guest or not?

I'm confused, the way people are describing guests are "a limited source of users who browse the forum unregistered". Since when were guests limited? They're an unlimited source, so suggesting they join won't destroy a source of viewers. Infact, members are more useful than guests, they're useful for statistics to see who is viewing what as an individual and not as a number (or un-numbered) "guest".

What has been suggested sounds like a good idea, it will make unregistered users have more time to view threads rather than be shunned by a three thread block. Ten would at least get them a bit more use to the forum and help make up their mind when joinin. And it won't destroy this tapless source of viewers people seem to think exist Though unlimited viewing in some forums would be a better idea, if something has been said which is inaccurate or some they agree with then they will register just to make their point known

I think you misunderstood the point a little bit, the point being made that some guests, upon being forced to register, may opt to stop browsing the forum instead of registering an account. I agree that POSTING members are more useful, but I don't think that posting guests are. I suppose seeing who is viewing a thread is useful but does it matter if you have no idea who they are because they've never posted before?

I agree that people will register just to make their point known - and that's the basis of the forum today. HabboxForum users register to be a part of the community - or in some cases to make a point once. ClubHabbo members (which is the comparison being used) are often not as active.



I'm looking at this in two minds.

1) We will force people to create accounts and half the guests will do it and will be silent members. We do nothing but boost our statistics...and its not like we're getting ad money based off of registered users, this isn't a newspaper. We also lose half the guests, half the potential users and half the potential exposure of Habbox. Word of mouth is our most powerful advertizing tool.

2) The above may or may not happen, however we have a better chance of getting those people posting because people are goddamn lazy. With choice, often something needs to be enough of a catalyst to go through the process of registering an account. If you have to register an account anyway, you're already ready to start posting so may as well go ahead.


We will be reducing the post approval number to 5, I had that slotted like a month or two ago...I think Matt didn't know how to do it and asked me to do it and I just forgot to follow up on that.

[xxMATTGxx]

We will be reducing the post approval number to 5, I had that slotted like a month or two ago...I think Matt didn't know how to do it and asked me to do it and I just forgot to follow up on that.

Just to let everyone know that it got reduced to 5 last Sunday.

[scottish]

Yeah you're right, I should have said that better. What I mean (and I think someone put it better in the middle of this thread) is that message can annoy people, their registration is no longer a choice but a necessity.

it's not necessary for them to register, if they wish to view more threads then it is, but when going on habboxforum.com a big message doesnt' come up 'YOU MUST REGISTER TO SEE ANYTHING' just the fact after 5/10 threads have been viewed they must then register...

Whether that matters or not could be debated, I think its the initial tone you set with the users and that will color their experience.

Habbo News was just the example I chose to give instead of dealing in abstract, I did mention "other stuff" I just wanted to give an example to keep it from being abstract and confusing.



There are reasons that FlyingJesus and myself brought up. And there's a key difference here, it won't result in more active users it will result in more active registered members. However, if these registered members never post anyway, does it really matter whether they are a guest or not?

Users doesn't really matter, as you can have 1000 guests or 50 members, i'd prefer the 50 member as their giving more to the community and actually taking part in discussions etc on the forum instead of looking and threads and doing nothing.

I think you misunderstood the point a little bit, the point being made that some guests, upon being forced to register, may opt to stop browsing the forum instead of registering an account. I agree that POSTING members are more useful, but I don't think that posting guests are. I suppose seeing who is viewing a thread is useful but does it matter if you have no idea who they are because they've never posted before?

Again you're saying forced, their not forced to register, they have the choice to register, its not something by law they have to register or they don't get to navigate away from the page so don't use the word force, as its simply a choice and the feature would encourage the member to register to view the thread and take part in the discussion than viewing the thread and doing nothing.

I agree that people will register just to make their point known - and that's the basis of the forum today. HabboxForum users register to be a part of the community - or in some cases to make a point once. ClubHabbo members (which is the comparison being used) are often not as active.

Isn't club habbo forum members / online members about the same as habbox lately? (someone compared earlier in the thread) and habbox has been around alot longer, so clearly the system their using isn't exactly bad if their catching up with hxf..

1) We will force people to create accounts and half the guests will do it and will be silent members. We do nothing but boost our statistics...and its not like we're getting ad money based off of registered users, this isn't a newspaper. We also lose half the guests, half the potential users and half the potential exposure of Habbox. Word of mouth is our most powerful advertizing tool.

not FORCING anyone to do anything, simply limiting the benefits of not being a member. You have no idea until you implement the system how many guests or potential users you lose so you can't simply say oh yes we're definately losing 50% of guests if we put this into place.

I don't see the point in you caring about the guests if their just viewing the threads and doing nothing to contribute to them, if the member seen a thread and wanted to register to state their opinion then they will do with or without this system.

[lick]

1) We will force people to create accounts and half the guests will do it and will be silent members. We do nothing but boost our statistics...and its not like we're getting ad money based off of registered users, this isn't a newspaper. We also lose half the guests, half the potential users and half the potential exposure of Habbox. Word of mouth is our most powerful advertizing tool.

i don't get how you would lose any of that when people are signing up and using the forum :S

They are not posting anything as it is because they are guests so surely if they sign up you're gaining something not losing it?

and it's not like people are gonna be like "omgz dont go on Habbox you cant view more than 5 threads without registering" people never bad mouth the clubhabbo one. And when you have an account you tend to post.. i went on clubhabbo to look and now i have an account with over 200posts
because i had to register

edit: Clubhabbo have posting competitions for users and the offer prizes of rep and donate, i suggest competitions do something like this months back but nothing has been done :S

its like you're running the forum as if its 2005 or something, you need to start updating and changing things or habbox is gonna die

[FlyingJesus]

i don't get how you would lose any of that when people are signing up and using the forum :S

They are not posting anything as it is because they are guests so surely if they sign up you're gaining something not losing it?

You don't seem to understand that just because people are told to register for something they don't always do it. I for one certainly don't unless I actually want something from the site and want to be involved, and I'm sure a massive number of young users who haven't been involved in forums before would be entirely put off by the idea of having to register just to see a news thread that they could probably have got the gist of from the main site anyway

You also seem to assume (in the 1st sentence quoted) that people who are registered will post.

http://www.habboxforum.com/memberlis...posts&page=959

^ 959 pages of registered members with 10 or less posts, of which

http://www.habboxforum.com/memberlist.php?&pp=30&order=asc&sort=posts&page=57 1

^ 571 pages of registered members without a single post

And that's at 30 members per page, over 17,000 non-posting members out of 37,159 shown on the member list. Well over half of the registered (and not banned) members have 10 or less posts by the looks of it, so getting a few new people who will be just as active as that isn't worth a forum overhaul. We need members who are interested and will stay, not just what I'd term as "registered guests" who might comment every now and then

[scottish]

edit: Clubhabbo have posting competitions for users and the offer prizes of rep and donate, i suggest competitions do something like this months back but nothing has been done :S

its like you're running the forum as if its 2005 or something, you need to start updating and changing things or habbox is gonna die

i disagree with that; as you're basically encouraging users to spam so instead of 20 people saying welcome in every thread to get post count it'd turn out to be like 200, and every thread in graphics "I LIKE IT 9/10" etc.

[lick]

i meant in spam

they do things like

100th person to post gets rep or vip etc..

[Inseriousity.]

edit: Clubhabbo have posting competitions for users and the offer prizes of rep and donate, i suggest competitions do something like this months back but nothing has been done :S

We are offering VIP as prizes (8 months of VIP a month so there's plenty of chance).
With the current rep system, it's quite difficult to give rep as a prize but we'll continue to do vip prizes so yes we did listen 'months back' as we've been giving it out for months.

the only problem with our competitions is poor advertising but we are looking into this.

edit: oh post above... I see.. hmm, well maybe we will look into that but it seems rather like 'luck' instead of using a talent.

[scottish]

its not difficult to give rep as a prize, lol but i do disagree with it as you get rep for contributing good posts to the community, not for like posting loads of crap to get most posts to increase your post count.

hes referring to prizes for posting, not help desk competitions, habboxlive comps, forum comps, etc