Who do you support?

[Jamesy]

I have just provided proof that Labour had an immigration policy based on race, you call Dragorn and the BNP racist for supporting a immigration policy based on race. I will ask again; why are Labour any different?

Labour's immigration policy did not state that one race was superior to another. The BNP's does as their core members and a majority of the membership believe that whites > colours.

The main parties do need to start tackling immigration, the BNP are only saying what people want to hear - because no other party is giving the public the answers they want (Jack Straw, question time, nuff said). The sooner the mainstream parties begin tackling the issues in the right way, without social manipulation (labour) and without having a racist core membership (BNP), the more chance is that party that will end up winning the election.

[Gibs960]

I'm not into politics.

Edited by Jamesy (Forum Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly, thanks.

[Ardemax]

Actually he is right and can say that if he wants. Some of them are in prison for GBH because they were found guilty of GBH. Your point is? Ad hominem?

GBH for attacks on some black people, yeah that's my point.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't judge friends based on race. But if you notice on Dragorns post he states "Obviously the ones who dont vote for BNP have either got black friends, black themselves or dont live in an area where blacks are (usually posh areas)."

Are you saying this is perfectly acceptable? Because you can't say that Labour, the BNP and Dragorn are all racist, either all of them or none.

2 of them are racist (Dragorn and BNP).

Now answer my question. Why are several of the BNP's members in jail for GBH?

If you do not judge friends on race then why are you saying that me and others who happen not to have black/asian friends are not entitled to an opinon.

I am saying that they are either all racist or all not racist, as for my personal opinion I would rather we have less rules as possible and that its equal on both sides, whether you are black or white. That means no black police associations and so forth.

On your 'question' - because the simple answer is that there are BNP members who are violent and racist and deserve to be locked up.

Labour's immigration policy did not state that one race was superior to another. The BNP's does as their core members and a majority of the membership believe that whites > colours.

The main parties do need to start tackling immigration, the BNP are only saying what people want to hear - because no other party is giving the public the answers they want (Jack Straw, question time, nuff said). The sooner the mainstream parties begin tackling the issues in the right way, without social manipulation (labour) and without having a racist core membership (BNP), the more chance is that party that will end up winning the election.

Labours immigration policy was designed to engineer the race of this country, and to make right wing people who are sceptics of immigration look racist. I think if the BNP are racist for having a racial immigration policy, then so is Labour as equally racist.

[Ardemax]

If you do not judge friends on race then why are you saying that me and others who happen not to have black/asian friends are not entitled to an opinon.

I am saying that they are either all racist or all not racist, as for my personal opinion I would rather we have less rules as possible and that its equal on both sides, whether you are black or white. That means no black police associations and so forth.

On your 'question' - because the simple answer is that there are BNP members who are violent and racist and deserve to be locked up.

Surely that would reflect on the BNP itself?

I didn't say you weren't entitled to an opinion, I said I don't think it's right that you should be sending them home without even knowing them. Not all black people are bad you know.

Labour - not racist. BNP + Dragorns post - racist.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Surely that would reflect on the BNP itself?

I didn't say you weren't entitled to an opinion, I said I don't think it's right that you should be sending them home without even knowing them. Not all black people are bad you know.

Labour - not racist. BNP + Dragorns post - racist.

I never said they were all bad, neither did I say we should send them home. I have said very clearly I support the UKIP line; freeze on immigration for a 5-year period while the current mess is cleared up (such as deporting criminals and people who are of no use to the country) and then reopen the borders but with real immigration controls which keeps a tab on who is in the country and who isn't, and who we want and who we don't want.

..so is it or is it not racist to have a immigration policy based on race? (yes or no answer)

[LuketheDuke]

Green party ftw, gonna be taking Brighton and maybe a East Anglian constituency at the next general election.

small gains but it puts people who support the most important issue on the planet at the forefront of politics. Not to mention universal insulation in housing, better minimum wage, better freight links, immigration caps and integration schemes etcetc.

Politics is screwed so its times smaller parties got their chance to shine.

[Ardemax]

I never said they were all bad, neither did I say we should send them home. I have said very clearly I support the UKIP line; freeze on immigration for a 5-year period while the current mess is cleared up (such as deporting criminals and people who are of no use to the country) and then reopen the borders but with real immigration controls which keeps a tab on who is in the country and who isn't, and who we want and who we don't want.

..so is it or is it not racist to have a immigration policy based on race? (yes or no answer)

yes, it is racist.

if you're denying someone to stay into a country because of their appearance/background, I'd call that just bad and wrong. If you're doing it because they're black and you assume they'll do something wrong, that's prejudice, if you then tell them that and turn them away, that's discrimination.

yeah, I probably agree with UKIP on tougher border controls, but I think 5 years is way too long.

[-:Undertaker:-]

yes, it is racist.

if you're denying someone to stay into a country because of their appearance/background, I'd call that just bad and wrong. If you're doing it because they're black and you assume they'll do something wrong, that's prejudice, if you then tell them that and turn them away, that's discrimination.

yeah, I probably agree with UKIP on tougher border controls, but I think 5 years is way too long.

Labours' is racist then if that is the case.

The middle bit is not what I said, you can see what I said below which is very clear. I'm afraid judging on background is right because we do not want uneducated/criminals coming here now, do we?

..5 years is the time period needed to sort out the mess this government has created.

[Bun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D97XgF7rR0



haha i'm sure undertaker will enjoy that vid ^, and personally i'm mainly middley righty (labour dem if you will :8), the tories scare me , although they will get in next election.