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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    You have basically just said that the public is too stupid to make its own decisions - we are not.
    yeah, alot are. the sun is the uk's largest selling paper and half the country can't get 5 A-Cs at GCSE level.

    sounds elitist but it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    yeah, alot are. the sun is the uk's largest selling paper and half the country can't get 5 A-Cs at GCSE level.

    sounds elitist but it's true.
    In that instance then, General Elections and all elections are pointless because a lot of people are too stupid to make the right choice. That is basically what you are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    In that instance then, General Elections and all elections are pointless because a lot of people are too stupid to make the right choice. That is basically what you are saying.
    no it is not what I am saying at all.

    they are too stupid to make decisions on complex issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    The other positions aren't important because they're just about the Welsh and that rubbish.
    Guess im out of that one then

    But yeah, anyone who talks sense, I'd vote for!
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    The problem is that the minority who rule us are (as proven by expenses and various other decisions) total idiots. They have ran this country into the ground with debt, seem to think our money should be spent elsewhere (EU, the world) rather than the UK. You have basically just said that the public is too stupid to make its own decisions - we are not. Adolf Hitler, Mao, Stalin and the rest of them all knew more than the German, Chinese and Russian people, but did it make them right? - no.

    These people who rule us have never done a days work in their life.
    Actually most of them had pretty successful careers before going in to politics, but that aside, you prove my point. many of these people are in power, because idiots hold the majority vote. The successful politicians arnt the ones who think of solid policys that are good for the country long term, there the ones with the unrealistic and poorly thought out policys made because they appeal to idiots who are incapable of considering the long term.

    Take the reacent drug debackle, you have david nutt a highly regarded expert who knows what he talking about, and a few ignorent politicians. David Nutt is who we should be listeneing to, but the politicians are who get to choose becuse they just say what people want to hear, rather than whats actually the truth.

    The Hitler issue you brought up, he got voted in by people becuse he tricked them. If the voters were not stupid then he would never have come to power, the fact anyone with a bit of carisma can fool an entire population simply proves this point.

    Think how dumb the average person is, half of people are dumber than that.

    Anyway, you didnt answer my first question ether:
    Say your in a room with 5 people, 4 are just your average joe's and 1 is leading professor of biology. Now your all really hungry and on the table is a selection of some unknown fruit.

    The professor says its poisonous, but the other 4 guys just want to eat them?

    According to you, those other guys are just as qualified to make the decision ?, so its 4v1, obviously the fruit must be fine to eat?

    I personally would trust the guy who knows what he's talking about, rather than the majority simply because they are the majority.

    Are you honestly saying you wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    no it is not what I am saying at all.

    they are too stupid to make decisions on complex issues.
    ..and the mandate a government has to carry out isn't complex?

    Actually most of them had pretty successful careers before going in to politics, but that aside, you prove my point. many of these people are in power, because idiots hold the majority vote. The successful politicians arnt the ones who think of solid policys that are good for the country long term, there the ones with the unrealistic and poorly thought out policys made because they appeal to idiots who are incapable of considering the long term.
    One of the problems is the voting system itself.

    Take the reacent drug debackle, you have david nutt a highly regarded expert who knows what he talking about, and a few ignorent politicians. David Nutt is who we should be listeneing to, but the politicians are who get to choose becuse they just say what people want to hear, rather than whats actually the truth.
    I agree.

    The Hitler issue you brought up, he got voted in by people becuse he tricked them. If the voters were not stupid then he would never have come to power, the fact anyone with a bit of carisma can fool an entire population simply proves this point.
    ..then the only solution following this logic would be to haver a dictatorship. It amazes me the way people can argue that elections for electing a government are fine, but referendums on single-issues are not. The only reason alexxx and so on do not want referendums is because the country would swing to the right overnight, death penalty would stand a good chance of coming back, the European Union would be finished before you could hold the vote and many other common sense issues would be implemented, much to the distate of the elitist left.

    Anyway, you didnt answer my first question ether:
    Do I trust this government or the public when it comes to deciding on the EU, death penalty and so on? - the public.

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    e5 then he'd make all pines 1 cred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMacC View Post
    e5 then he'd make all pines 1 cred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMacC View Post
    e5 then he'd make all pines 1 cred.
    LMAOOOO and he'd make Sulake give out free credits and make them let only Habbox sell VIP .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergio View Post
    LMAOOOO and he'd make Sulake give out free credits and make them let only Habbox sell VIP .
    And if he became PM back in 2007 he could have made a law, banning anyone posting news within 2 seconds of it bing release, except him.


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