Islamic extremists vow to march through streets of Wootton Bassett

[-:Undertaker:-]

My ******* name is "Saurav", not "Sav". :rolleyes:

I'll remember next time, Sav.

UKIP's policies sound like something that everyone wants, but they aren't realistic. The only parties who make such policies are ones who have no chance of getting into power, and therefore they know they are never going to have to backup what they say.

I don't think you understand, but thats how democracy works. UKIP are a populist party, a party which appeals to most of Conservative-thinking Britain. That includes leaving the European Union, holding referendums on issues such as the EU and the death penalty, lower taxes and lower public spending and smaller government in general. It is otherwise known as democracy.

There should be tighter controls to stop such extremists coming in, however what UKIP propose is to stop ALL immigration for 5 years, that includes those who can actually add to this country's economy.

Do you still not understand why, despite the fact I have told you time and time again? - for the record, i'll explain it again.

The mess this government has made, means that this country does not know who is here, who is not here, do these people have a criminal record or not? - it knows none of that. Therefore common sense would suggest, close the borders for a period of 5 years while you sort out the present mess - this means that while you are sorting the problem out it does not get worse, meaning it would never end.

After the 5 year period ends you introduce a immigration system which allows the good and needed in, but not the bad and unwanted.

Make your mind up. You say you want to close borders for 5 years. Then you say people will will help the economy should be allowed in. Like I said, no wonder UKIP aren't in power.

I have made my mind up, nothing has changed that I have said here. Those who help the economy are welcome in, as soon as the present mess it sorted out. It is regrettable that we need to enforce a 5 year total blanket ban on immigration, but it is needed.

Edited by MattGarner (Acting Assistant General Manager): Please do not try and cause arguments.

[Seatherny]

I'll remember next time, Sav.

I don't think you understand, but thats how democracy works. UKIP are a populist party, a party which appeals to most of Conservative-thinking Britain. That includes leaving the European Union, holding referendums on issues such as the EU and the death penalty, lower taxes and lower public spending and smaller government in general. It is otherwise known as democracy.

Do you still not understand why, despite the fact I have told you time and time again? - for the record, i'll explain it again.

The mess this government has made, means that this country does not know who is here, who is not here, do these people have a criminal record or not? - it knows none of that. Therefore common sense would suggest, close the borders for a period of 5 years while you sort out the present mess - this means that while you are sorting the problem out it does not get worse, meaning it would never end.

After the 5 year period ends you introduce a immigration system which allows the good and needed in, but not the bad and unwanted.

I have made my mind up, nothing has changed that I have said here. Those who help the economy are welcome in, as soon as the present mess it sorted out. It is regrettable that we need to enforce a 5 year total blanket ban on immigration, but it is needed.

All I will say is, UKIP will never get in power. If they did, then this country will just go corrupt. They are not realistic at all.

Well done on changing the subject of yet another thread to UKIP.

[-:Undertaker:-]

All I will say is, UKIP will never get in power. If they did, then this country will just go corrupt. They are not realistic at all.

Well done on changing the subject of yet another thread to UKIP.

As usual nothing else to say, then you say I brought up UKIP!?

Hey, look what I found.

I think you need to get all your UKIP ideas in your head sorted out as they all seem jumbled up.

The first time UKIP was mentioned in this thread, and guess who posted it!? - you!

[Seatherny]

As usual nothing else to say, then you say I brought up UKIP!?

Hey, look what I found.

The first time UKIP was mentioned in this thread, and guess who posted it!? - you!

I believe it was you who posted the politics behind it, I simply replied to you as part of a larger post.

Anyway, I really am not going to argue with you on UKIP as I think they are just useless. Lets change the topic back to the OP's post.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I believe it was you who posted the politics behind it, I simply replied to you as part of a larger post.

Anyway, I really am not going to argue with you on UKIP as I think they are just useless. Lets change the topic back to the OP's post.

Oh yeah excuses, excuses. I had no intention of bringing up UKIP in this thread yet you just had to didn't you. I'm glad, but there is one good thing when you bring up UKIP and decide to debate it in a thread; your posts can only strengthen the argument for voting them.

[Seatherny]

Oh yeah excuses, excuses. I had no intention of bringing up UKIP in this thread yet you just had to didn't you. I'm glad, but there is one good thing when you bring up UKIP and decide to debate it in a thread; your posts can only strengthen the argument for voting them.

Believe what you want, but UKIP just say what will please the public for sure.

[GommeInc]

It's just one big circle of controversy. Islam4UK say it is wrong or "dishonourable" to pay respects to these servicemen that have died in Afghanistan because they have killed Muslims, but they fail to notice the obvious that these killed in action servicemen may have been killed by Muslims themselves, so there's no pleasing them. IF Islam4UK were doing a march to honour the Muslim men, women and children that have died in the conflict, then fine. But they shouldn't do it in what appears to be a protest against the servicemen killing Muslims, it's pretty ignorant really.

EDIT: Can someone pleeeease lock Undertaker and Saurav in a room away from the public? Nurse, nurse! They're out of bed again :/

[Black_Apalachi]

... The bottom line is, we shouldn't be in Iraq or Afganhistan.

Doesn't that kind of explain this whole thing, or am I missing something?

[Bun]

disgusting. it's this deluded minority that makes a scary majority turn against all asians.

[Dan2nd]

It's just one big circle of controversy. Islam4UK say it is wrong or "dishonourable" to pay respects to these servicemen that have died in Afghanistan because they have killed Muslims, but they fail to notice the obvious that these killed in action servicemen may have been killed by Muslims themselves, so there's no pleasing them. IF Islam4UK were doing a march to honour the Muslim men, women and children that have died in the conflict, then fine. But they shouldn't do it in what appears to be a protest against the servicemen killing Muslims, it's pretty ignorant really.

EDIT: Can someone pleeeease lock Undertaker and Saurav in a room away from the public? Nurse, nurse! They're out of bed again :/

and the Service men that have been killed may be Muslims themselves so what make British Muslims different from ones in Afghanistan?