Manchester United raise £504m in bond issue

[Immenseman]

They 100% won't. They've already said they know they'll never make it back, they do it for power and status, nothing more.

[CHA!NGANG]

Yes Jake but they haven't had to pay £700 Million first before they got there power have they? They bought the club in good health and then they spent money building it up. With United, they will have to pay £700 Million first, then they'd have to buy players.

People seem to think that Arab Billionaires think £700 Million is nothing... Even for Bill Gates that's about 2% of his worth which for Billionaire to just give away to something which isn't his fault or responsibility is stupid. All United fans seem to think because of It's reputation, Billionaires will just spend on United but they're not Billionaires for nothing and I doubt any of them are prepared to just give away £700 Million...

[Immenseman]

If they were debt free though they'd make so much, it's not all that bad. They paid tens of millions last year of debt payments and interest from the debt. If this was gone, they'd be making tens of millions. I agree, they're in a dire state but people on here are deluded if they think United will come under threat.

[leah]

They 100% won't. They've already said they know they'll never make it back, they do it for power and status, nothing more.

Yes Jake but they haven't had to pay £700 Million first before they got there power have they? They bought the club in good health and then they spent money building it up. With United, they will have to pay £700 Million first, then they'd have to buy players.

People seem to think that Arab Billionaires think £700 Million is nothing... Even for Bill Gates that's about 2% of his worth which for Billionaire to just give away to something which isn't his fault or responsibility is stupid. All United fans seem to think because of It's reputation, Billionaires will just spend on United but they're not Billionaires for nothing and I doubt any of them are prepared to just give away £700 Million...

This.

They may have got power and status from it but they are still going to get a steady income from the clubs, say chelsea win the premiership, they'll get a huge pay out, so spending that money was worth while.

City never get into Europe, so if they do this season they'll also get a payout, something which can be put towards making the money back.

United may win the premiership, they may get into Europe but because their debt is so great no billionaire in their right mind would want to touch them, because quite frankly, it isn't worth it.



at jakes above post... even if they weren't in debt they wouldn't make a profit because united are making a loss each year... which is why the debt has built up, amongst other things.

[CHA!NGANG]

No I agree that United won't be in trouble really. They will eventually get around it and I doubt they'd have to sell any players but I don't think that Arab Billionaires will be dying to buy United either. Saying that, it won't surprise me if there is 1 that's intrested but there won't be many.

[leah]

No I agree that United won't be in trouble really. They will eventually get around it and I doubt they'd have to sell any players but I don't think that Arab Billionaires will be dying to buy United either. Saying that, it won't surprise me if there is 1 that's intrested but there won't be many.

How will they though? That's what i'm saying. They've bought themselves some time but the only way to clear those debts is to make that money from somewhere.

The only way to get rid of the debts is to be taken over by some rich idiot who will pay them all off, and no one with such high amounts of money is stupid.

[CHA!NGANG]

I'm sure they'll think of something. Getting a buyer would solve all the problems yes but that's only if there's someone willing to do it and that might happen who knows but what I'm saying is that there won't be a lot of people willing to buy it, probably only 1 or 2 that have more money than sense. Saying that, I guess they could sell the stadium which would pay off the majority of the debt. There are probably other ways too which I don't know but the pro's do but I doubt they'll be forced to sell players for money. On the other hand, I also don't think they will be able to buy a lot of players either, and with Arsenal and Chelsea increasingly growing along with City, United are destined to find it harder every year to win the title and although I can see them qualifiying for the CL for years to come, I don't see them winning the title or CL for a while until the finances are solved. I recon in 2-3 years it will be: Arsenal, Chelsea, City and United in the top 4 in that order with Liverpool fading away too unless they get a buyer too.

[leah]

I'm sure they'll think of something. Getting a buyer would solve all the problems yes but that's only if there's someone willing to do it and that might happen who knows but what I'm saying is that there won't be a lot of people willing to buy it, probably only 1 or 2 that have more money than sense. Saying that, I guess they could sell the stadium which would pay off the majority of the debt. There are probably other ways too which I don't know but the pro's do but I doubt they'll be forced to sell players for money. On the other hand, I also don't think they will be able to buy a lot of players either, and with Arsenal and Chelsea increasingly growing along with City, United are destined to find it harder every year to win the title and although I can see them qualifiying for the CL for years to come, I don't see them winning the title or CL for a while until the finances are solved. I recon in 2-3 years it will be: Arsenal, Chelsea, City and United in the top 4 in that order with Liverpool fading away too unless they get a buyer too.

Yeah I agree with you on the latter part of your post but I still doubt they'll find a way out of the debt they're in. Saying that they're jammy so probably will, but there isn't a logical way in which they could atm. They won't sell players because fergie is too stubborn, they wouldn't sell their stadium because if they did the fans would go mental plus it would be a damage to the ego of the club if they did that.

Also, the Glazers don't look keen to sell, if they do they will sell the debt with it so the current crisis isn't harming them or their money at all.