UKIP & BNP MEMBERS TEND TO HAVE LOWER IQS

[jrh2002]

You can call me Mrs Blair if wou want to - I really rate Tony Blair.

I was more thinking of Cherie fighting for the rights of the terrorists etc (Very Sorry) Tony Blair did come over very very well but it turns out hes a war criminal who is benefitting from a job that involves trading in the Iraq oil surely he should never be allowed to be in such a position as that is morally wrong at the very least. Great how his expenses were also accidently shredded by one of his staff and there were no other records of them How he was making laws to combat terrorism but then his wonky faced wife was then challenging those laws in her job defending the terrorists Quite a money making little double act. The best thing Tony Blair did in my eyes was leaving when he did so it all collapsed on poor Gordon LOL priceless

Introduction of:
Dragging Labour party into the 20th Century
But they have gone against what they have always stood for and that was the working man/woman (My grandad was a labout supporter and must be turning in his grave)

10p income tax for lower paid ( abolished by Gordon Brown)
People are far poorer these days than they were 13 years ago Look at the rediculous rises in council tax, fuel duty and 100s more stealth taxes

Minimum Wage
This works for some but I believe it has created a huge black economy of people working tax free for a lot less than the minimum wage

Child tax credit
If you are not able to afford children then dont have them? Why should we subsadise the baby farming family who use this as a pay rise? not to mention you only need to renew this claim once per year there are so many people living abroad who draw this out their banks from the foreign cash machines

Working Tax Credit
This gives people no incentive to better themselves I know a few people who have turned down quite good promotions so they dont lose out on this tax credit and dont lose child tax credits :s If I was back at school my ambition would be to get a council house and live a life of luxery off the state.

Pension Credit
Does this give people who have not paid enough in an amount to make their money up to full pension? Incentive to work hard and pay your NI? I think not. Where I do agree with this credit is where a lady who brought up a family while her husband worked became a widow and then was not entitled to a full state pension.

Cold weather payments
I agree with this one 100% and its great that everybody gets it I even believe its right that our ex pats abroad get it as well because they have paid in to the system.

An equal age of consent for homosexuals,
This is fine but considering nobody seems to take any notice of the age of consent even when there is evidence such as a child born to a 13 year old and no prosecutions happens (99 times out of 100 anyway)

civil partnership laws,
The tories will even give them marriage tax allowance

Abolition of Clause 28 (a measure introduced by the previous Conservative administration which prohibited the promotion of homosexuality in schools).
The birds and the bees should be explained in school like reproduction, safe sex and about STD's and I disagree with anything more being promoted If somebody is straight, gay or bi surely as long as you know how to be safe then the fun is in the experimenting? I can imagine looking your partner in the eyes and seeing your school teacher in your mind giving their tips of what to do next lol I dont even think a man could survive that thought full of viagra.

Abolition of Incapacity benefit
But they have not thrown the people off this and made them re-apply for the new benefit so its still a career for some. To be honest its just a name change with a bit of tough talking but its not stopping people claim it Even the overweight get on it and can get a free gym membership to help them lose weight or get a free disability scooter (bloody menaces of the paths and supermarkets)

Abolition of benefit payments to 16 - 18 replaced by EMA
EMA should be free transport (Bus Pass) Free books etc and vouchers for stationary etc and NO cash at all. Not sure the tax payer should have to pay yet again and send these people out to do part time jobs to fund themselves.

A very stable and prosperous economy
Built on a bubble of debt that finally popped? typical labour spending like crazy even during the good times when they should have been saving for the crash of course the crash was never coming as Gordon had stopped boom and bust lol Funding all these crazy quangos who supply us with rediculous studies and then Labour say how many new jobs they had created just read the Guardian jobs pages and you will struggle to keep a straight face at some of the crazy job titles.

[Tintinnabulate]

Here here, summed this thread up in one line.

UKIP was a joke in 2001 anyway. Although I am glad to see that now with a higher result expected at this election and amazing results at the European Elections, you (the main parties) are taking UKIP seriously as a threat and that explains why you are so determined to post threads such as this (which are 9 years out of date) which dont even debate policy but are, in short; cheap shots. On the point of IQs, quite frankly I wouldnt judge anybody by their intelligence and that doesnt make their opinion worth any less than somebody who is a step up in education background, and for you to do so is snobbery at its best.

They still are a joke. And being taken "seriously as a threat"? Sorry, which planet do you live in?
The main debates between Labour, Conservatives and Liberal Democrats.

[Hecktix]

George bush was the president of the USA and has an IQ of 91. You don't have to be clever to reach the top in politics.

You don't have to be clever to reach the top, but you have to be clever to do well, also backed up by your Bush comment

[Fez]

They still are a joke. And being taken "seriously as a threat"? Sorry, which planet do you live in?
The main debates between Labour, Conservatives and Liberal Democrats.

Second in the European Parliament elections? Beat out Labour?

[Tintinnabulate]

Second in the European Parliament elections? Beat out Labour?

Not in the General Election though...

[ifuseekamy]

Because most of the supporters are working class. The majority of Labour supporters probably wouldn't fare too well against the Conservatives if you looked at their IQ and qualifications for the same reason.

[Catzsy]

Because most of the supporters are working class. The majority of Labour supporters probably wouldn't fare too well against the Conservatives if you looked at their IQ and qualifications for the same reason.

I actually do not think IQ has anything to do with class. I'd be amazed if you could find some actual evidence of that. Jrh I will be replying to your post when I have an hour to spare!

[Fez]

Not in the General Election though...

Well it shows they are increasing in public opinion.

[GommeInc]

Hmmm, I prefer how people practice than what an IQ test can say about someone. An IQ test is a terrible example, seeing as a politician doesn't necessarily have to be up to date with general knowledge - just how to run the country and have some knowledge of law, accountancy, politics and so forth. As far as I can tell, UKIP and BNP members are quite smart. Heck, socially acceptable people who do not stick their groggy little fingers into the biscuit jar is usually a start

[Special]

i have an IQ of 140 and got 9A*s at GCSE and went to one of the top grammar schools in country for boys yet i support UKIP ?

omg seriously?

and also i agree with the person who said something on the lines of 'you don't need to be clever to see the countrys in a mess' (sorry, i couldnt find your post!)

i dont support any party or whatever