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    Quote Originally Posted by ziziziz View Post
    ironicly i do and i agree not everyone is but i am, so is my family so in that concept i wouldnt.


    my ignorant? coming from the poster who says "since that would be a waste of time to argue about" refering to christianity. but the debate is not about that so ill move on. thats right, you can ask for forgiveness and your sins will be forgiven. When you ask your sins to be forgived it has to be genuine obviously or God will know that you dont mean it. so if someone killed 3 people i highly doubt they didnt mean it.

    fair point about the life machine thing but you misunderstood me, i didnt say "natual life" because thats what you post pretty much says, i said about natural death ie; dying when its your time. i have nothing against vaccines, they help people fulfil their life and the bit about humans living to only 40 is complete rubbish, in the bible many people died in their hundreds.
    it would be a waste of time to argue about because, exactly as you said, that is not what this debate is about. that was my only point.

    natural life and natural death are one in the same, the ideas intertwine. if god meant for you to die of black plague then we are essentially "playing god" by finding cures. the bible is hardly a history book, and you shouldnt base your facts on them; in reality, it hasnt been until the last hundred years or so that the average life expectancy has been past 40 (proof).

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    The thing is it varies on a person by person basis based on their perception of morality, a blanket rule is never right, especially on sensitive issues such as these however in this case I believe that it would be perhaps the best course of action. Keeping someone in pain is never right, especially if they have clearly indicated that they don't wish to stay like it.

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    i think that if they really really want to then we should.

    its their choice like and no1 should be aloud to make that apart from themselves.

    I mean how would u like it if u wer forced to do something which u really never wanted.

    Altho i can see the other point of view that it is still killing someone which is a crime. But the answer to this is maybe the old person couldnt do it as they were to weak and sick.

    what we should do is respect their wishes as that is were the saying "RESPECT YOUR ELDERS" comes from. It is their choice how they live and if they want to die then we should help them

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    Quote Originally Posted by idunno View Post
    what we should do is respect their wishes as that is were the saying "RESPECT YOUR ELDERS" comes from. It is their choice how they live and if they want to die then we should help them
    I agree and I think you make a valid of point. If anyone knows about the value of life it is the oldest generation having lived the longest, they are in the best place to make the judgement and it should be their judgement alone. You never know when you are old you may decide that you have had your life and now it is time to let others lead theirs, it truly would be horrible to have someone deny you what you truly want. Perhaps its best for us to accept that sometimes old people do wish to end it and so we should make it as painless and stress free as possible?

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