Foreign languages in HxHD

[HotelUser]

A lot of you are making very valid points, and they would normally persuade me to argue in your favour, but unfortunately it's just not an option at the moment to open the gates entirely. The unfortunate truth is that there are trolling users who, more often than not, use foreign languages to insult other users. This is not Habbox Forum. We do not have the luxury of taking time translating posts, and giving guarantee'd bans to rulebreakers. We have to deal with rule breaking fairly quickly and that's just not a option when it comes to trying to translate everything another user is saying before it leaves the screen.

Usually when I see a genuine foreign user (and it's quite obvious because they will either have a freshly registered name or non english tags) I use Google translator to explain that they have to speak English in the room (such as I did last night when a Norwegian user was here). Google translator is good for that.

It's not like we're directly targeting foreign and kicking them on sight--far from it. If a user in the help desk is genuinely not able to speak English, and through google translator it's obvious that they're just here to be friendly, then I see no problem with amending this rule to state that so long as the user doesn't know English, and so long as it's obvious they're here to be fairly well behaved, they're allowed to stay.


For the record I have never seen a user speaking Russian, or Chinese in the help desk

So now, we're not allowed to speak in any foreign languages or we get a kick and a warning from HxHD..

Yeah, okay I do see some of the point in that but isn't it a bit ridiculous?
I thought habbox was a international fansite.. Meaning people from all over the world are invited, I understand some people may insult people in that language but I don't think there's any need to get a kick as soon as you say a sentence say, for example, in german.
I don't understand why everyone is so offended by someone talking in another language, especially if it's to someone else who is also speaking that language.
okay, I admit I speak german every now and then on habbo just for the sake of it but I don't expect to be kicked from a habbo room for saying like 1/2 sentences in german.
Can you enlighten me on why it's so bad to speak another language..

Also, it's not in the rules either, so it's not like it's an obvious rule.

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If it wasn't on our rule list, apologies. It's been added now.

[Josh]

Usually when I see a genuine foreign user (and it's quite obvious because they will either have a freshly registered name or non english tags) I use Google translator to explain that they have to speak English in the room (such as I did last night when a Norwegian user was here). Google translator is good for that.

Explaining my first ban?

[Hecktix]

What about users just wanting to speak other languages for a laugh with their friends?

[HotelUser]

Explaining my first ban?

I'm going to assume you're Wiizzz because he seems to be the only English user getting into trouble for breaking this rule

Even if I disregard the rule, I know three staffmembers, and the general manager himself requested that you stop, yet you persisted. Then I woke up thismorning to receive a PM explaining that you had to be kicked from the room for two hours straight. Your ban is more than fair and you're quite lucky the staffmember kicking you didn't extend it more than I would have (especially after I cut you some slack last night)

What about users just wanting to speak other languages for a laugh with their friends?

I'm thinking that if it's obvious that they don't know English that they be allowed to speak in their native tongue. If they know English then I'd prefer them to stick to just that. The reason for this being that usually when users in the help desk speak different languages "for a laugh" it includes some sort of mockery of another user.

[Tintinnabulate]

This rule is ridiculous, simply ridiculous.

If I walk in and start speaking in Hindi, even if I am being rude, only the people who understand Hindi will know. If I am being rude in Hindi towards a user, they are free to use Google Translator and find out if I am being rude, and if I am, they can send the screen shot to HxHD Management. There is no need to hand out warnings. Staff can simply ignore those speaking in a different language.

Its a help desk, a desk where people can have a chat, not some super strict room.

I think I have shown General Management enough times this week (well Alkaz and MattGarner) how HabboxForum (and also HxHD) has gone from being very very relaxed in rules to being super strict. Management can claim the rules are relaxed in HxF right now and it may be in comparison to when ---MAD--- ran it, but its still more strict than in 2005-2006.

It now seems HxHD is also making silly rules.

[HotelUser]

This rule is ridiculous, simply ridiculous.

If I walk in and start speaking in Hindi, even if I am being rude, only the people who understand Hindi will know. If I am being rude in Hindi towards a user, they are free to use Google Translator and find out if I am being rude, and if I am, they can send the screen shot to HxHD Management. There is no need to hand out warnings. Staff can simply ignore those speaking in a different language.

Its a help desk, a desk where people can have a chat, not some super strict room.

I think I have shown General Management enough times this week (well Alkaz and MattGarner) how HabboxForum (and also HxHD) has gone from being very very relaxed in rules to being super strict. Management can claim the rules are relaxed in HxF right now and it may be in comparison to when ---MAD--- ran it, but its still more strict than in 2005-2006.

It now seems HxHD is also making silly rules.

In 2005 you were not allowed to swear in HxHD, staff could issue permanent bans or bans lasting longer than a week as opposed to bans now which only last several hours to several days and if you weren't speaking in English, or you were roleplaying, you weren't allowed in the room at all. How on Earth are you justifying us being more strict now

[Tintinnabulate]

In 2005 you were not allowed to swear in HxHD, staff could issue permanent bans or bans lasting longer than a week as opposed to bans now which only last several hours to several days and if you weren't speaking in English, or you were roleplaying, you weren't allowed in the room at all. How on Earth are you justifying us being more strict now

I think swearing is only allowed not as Habbo have allowed it.
Either way, not allowing people to speak in a foreign language is a bad idea and I have explained why - which you seem to have ignored.

[Grig]

I am having to agree with you 100% on this point, well summed up.

Also David, if you do that kudos on you. But many staff simply kick genuine users without attempting to communicate with them as much.

This rule is ridiculous, simply ridiculous.

If I walk in and start speaking in Hindi, even if I am being rude, only the people who understand Hindi will know. If I am being rude in Hindi towards a user, they are free to use Google Translator and find out if I am being rude, and if I am, they can send the screen shot to HxHD Management. There is no need to hand out warnings. Staff can simply ignore those speaking in a different language.

Its a help desk, a desk where people can have a chat, not some super strict room.

I think I have shown General Management enough times this week (well Alkaz and MattGarner) how HabboxForum (and also HxHD) has gone from being very very relaxed in rules to being super strict. Management can claim the rules are relaxed in HxF right now and it may be in comparison to when ---MAD--- ran it, but its still more strict than in 2005-2006.

It now seems HxHD is also making silly rules.

[,Lexiilu]

so we probably almost all know i work there.
I personally find this rule unnecessary. normally i'd be all for the new rules HxHD has to offer but this one is excessive.
honestly, if you're going to take the time to translate what a user says about you, you have the time to send it to super staff and david.
i also think that if you really care what they have to say then you need to lighten up. they most likely know nothing about you and are just doing it for a laugh. i know that no one likes to be put down or made fun of or called names, but really. let people speak their language. if they're flooding or you know they're being rude because you know that language, then by all means, kick them. but i know that for myself, i used to have fun little french conversations with users who came in the help desk. we'd talk about our names, how we were doing, etc. in fact, on the day that this rule was implemented, earlier i had met two french speaking users and having a conversation about them. obviously if staff are involved they aren't going to be badmouthing a user, as they'd get in trouble.
i really don't feel that this rule is needed. i have only had a problem...once? with people being rude in another language and i'm not even sure if they were, it was what Habbic was telling me.
and what happens for those other hotels who close at midnight? they can't come in and chat? that's why we've had so many foreign users. well, one reason.
anyways, this is excessive, and i'm sorry Habbic/Scott, but you insult others in english 24/7, so why shouldn't they insult you back in the language they speak? and oh by the way, THEY DON'T. you've only told me they have one time. and I didn't translate it because I couldn't kick, nor did I have a norwegian keyboard.

all in all, i think this rule should go. that's just my opinion though.

[xxMATTGxx]

The rule is nearly at the end of discussion and hopefully the outcome will please people. We are waiting for a view off someone and then we will go from there.