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[Conservative,]

News and articles are one one the same. They're both read for entertainment they're both based on current happenings and they can both be real world or habbo related.

Let Martin do what he wants with the idea. You've thrown it out there, people have said it's a good idea but now you're pushing it.

From here it's martins job to decide who does what and I believe if no one else does that he can make the right decision on this idea.

i think it's failing because being honest I know no one that reads news? I'm not just saying that, no one I know of or interact with connected with habbo or this forum (i mean 'friends' off this forum) use habbox for news?

And I think it will fail because without the full dedication it will fail. martin is a fab guy, great at everything he does but c'mon four different jobs? three of them as a manager? that's surely a lot. if it wasn't then why of course is there three agm's and a gm on here? they need the dedicated staff to each department.

I think articles could work best with a manager and someone over-seeing it, ie the agm of content for a few months, or the AGM of content as 'manager' to build the department, give structure and tasks, assign everything... then once it's on it's feet they can move out, elect a manager.

Why is martin suited to the job? Surely the content manager/agm content is better :S?

---------- Post added 23-11-2010 at 12:27 AM ----------

martin can you tell me why articles is best under the news department? i'm not talking about habbo articles, but actual articles? you've gave no valid reason on why it should be in the news department? especially when you're saying it'll have it's own section and own staff?

look at it from this point then, shouldn't event and competitions be merged then?

---------- Post added 23-11-2010 at 12:28 AM ----------

oh i get it now, you want articles to hold up news?

[Mrs.McCall]

That's exactly the point. I agree you're right. Articles would prop up News. I think it's unfair to say nobody reads news. We get lots of hits, we get PMs and lots of recognition and Habbox has regularly won awards at Habbo Fansite Awards for Best News Fansite. Habbox is the best for News, there's no denying and many people will tell you that.

Martin wouldn't be better than the Content AGM rather than more suitable. Alkaz has a LOT of work especially with V6 coming up and he runs a lot of different departments. A new department requires work and lots of time which he wouldn't be able to give fully with his other jobs. Martin, however, does has many jobs yes but his job as News Manager would be exactly the same as Articles Manager just with more people. It'd be a similar process and the guides/tips/info that News Reporters have in posting would be exactly the same. News Reporters and Articles Writers are two of the same so it'd make sense to have the News Manager (and I'd be saying this even if it wasn't Martin) run the department.

[Inseriousity.]

And why do they not use Habbox for news? Is it because Habbo, BBC News, DigitalSpy, Sky News, newspaper websites basically give you the news anyway? In which case, how can they improve that? They can write articles too both Habbo and non-Habbo.

[Casanova]

neversoft, you are our fountain of great knowledge; especially articles! Please enlighten us with your opinion?

Should articles go under news, ran by the same person but two different items? ie, habbo (and news), and real life/articles?

or articles separate, ran by different people?

[Mrs.McCall]

There aren't articles on Habbox anymore? As a former articles manager this makes me sad. When I resigned 8Freak8 actually said I got the department back on track and had probably done more than anyone else had ever done for it. Alright, who is the culprit that let it fail? They must be punished.

I'd beg to differ. You were my manager remember haha.

I think Professor-Alex was last Articles Manager.

[Casanova]

can anyone provide a valid reason on why articles should be under the wing of news?

I'll be honest, I think it's because news is failing. if they were separate then news would become redundant after time. Habbo has taken habbox's position.

[Mrs.McCall]

Because Articles failed on its own to. If you had both departments running together you can maintain interest better. Say, for example, there's a News Report about a new quest. The News Reporter can report on it and a Writer could review the quest room.

Similarly, say perhaps Jordan and Alex Reid split up and she got back with Peter. A News Reporter would report and an Articles writer could write a history of their relationship.

Then, if there's a lull in news, Reporters could write some Music Reviews, Poems, Scripts etc. There would be a constant stream of interesting, relevant content.

[Martin]

martin can you tell me why articles is best under the news department? i'm not talking about habbo articles, but actual articles? you've gave no valid reason on why it should be in the news department? especially when you're saying it'll have it's own section and own staff?

Where did I say that?


But ok, it will be best suited along with news for the following reasons:

1) I know what I'm doing in terms of managing a deparment (though some may disagree and fair enough)
2) As Michael and countless other people said in this thread, News has a similar theme to articles. They both involve a passion in writing, and producing accurate content for the site.
3) With more members in the team we could easily handle and adapt to new things.
4) Articles on its own could once again fail causing more disruption and making things harder.
5) As you said, News can sometimes struggle on its own. There isn't as much demand for News these days so it makes PERFECT SENSE to do things like this to strengthen a current department rather than producing what could be two weaker ones.
6) Current news reporters are already interested in this, and some ideas have been flowing
7) News Reporters get told how to put content on the site/ how to use editors and how to make their work interesting and original- this will help with articles.
8) Time will not be an issue. I am very capable of managing my time, and I think it's something that can easily be done. Like I said before twice- it's the team members putting in the effort and the willingness to succeed that makes a department what it is.


There are more, however In my honest opinion it just feels right to trial it with news. We could argue this point forever, however I have Alkaz' backing to do something different with my department and expand out. I don't see how it's going to affect you/or other members enjoyment of the articles however they are produced, and I don't think it's fair to judge how well something would work before it's even given a go.

]can anyone provide a valid reason on why articles should be under the wing of news?

I'll be honest, I think it's because news is failing. if they were separate then news would become redundant after time. Habbo has taken habbox's position.

Surely if you think my news department will become redundant after time, that's a reason in itself to strengthen things, look into new things and merge with articles.

[Casanova]

I agree. But the departments are different, habbo and then real life. I agree with what you said it's all correct. There's nothing stopping that happening if the articles isn't ran by the same person?

I just don't understand how we would benefit from a merged department. If anything they suffer, the manager would have both. Won't news suffer then if there's 'a lot to take on in the creation of a department'? Then everyone will blame articles.

I just feel that the department would benefit from one manager each. Not one manager for both. Why not the content manager creates the department then moves on? since you're saying no to the agm.

---------- Post added 23-11-2010 at 12:46 AM ----------

right fair enough. I'll give in because none of you are giving my reasoning any time but that's fair enough, we all feel our own opinions are right and i for one am a martyr of my opinions!

But if you do take on the department, does that mean I couldn't apply for articles unless I agree to be a habbo news reporter :S?

[Inseriousity.]

can anyone provide a valid reason on why articles should be under the wing of news?

I'll be honest, I think it's because news is failing. if they were separate then news would become redundant after time. Habbo has taken habbox's position.

there isn't a lot of News to report on! Articles would be the real boost we need

We are not just a Habbo based department. We've shown that with entertainment news and inteviews

News and articles are one one the same. They're both read for entertainment they're both based on current happenings and they can both be real world or habbo related.

his job as News Manager would be exactly the same as Articles Manager just with more people. It'd be a similar process and the guides/tips/info that News Reporters have in posting would be exactly the same. News Reporters and Articles Writers are two of the same so it'd make sense to have the News Manager (and I'd be saying this even if it wasn't Martin) run the department.

You've been given lots of reasons.