Was the 1969 Moon Landing a hoax?

[Stephen!]

I thought this debate was about the moon landings?

[Conservative,]

Just because it's written down, it doesn't mean it's the truth. I bet half the stuff wiki leaks had just leaked counters some of the stuff we thought were happening.

But there are photos from the U2 spy planes which show the war heads? lol.

But meh, the US government has lied, but I really doubt they'd lie about such a huge thing and especially during that time, if they had then Russia would've proved it false. It was about who was most advanced, Russia would've done everything to make sure that they looked more powerful so if there was any doubt about the landings they would've capitalized on it.

[Phil]

It was a part of the Cold War? Was it Russia they were racing? Lets say this was a hoax, do you not think the Russians would go "Here lads they never got to the moon"

[JerseySafety]

I don't think it was a hoax. I think it was completely legit.

Thing have to be done for a first time like when Sir Edmund Hillary & that other tenzing dude climbed Mt Everest for the first time..

[Neversoft]

This thread is a hoax.

[Wig44.]

I'm well aware of the Cuban missile crisis and i'm not talking about that, i'm talking about Operation Northwood which aimed to get the public behind an invasion of Cuba by staging attacks on U.S. cities/soil and blaming it on Cuba, when infact it was the CIA.

The WMD issue, i'm sorry but there was no evidence that Iraq has WMD and its just as fruitless a claim as I could accuse you right now of harbouring terrorists and enemies of the state - the result (compared to the invasion of Iraq) would be a Police raid on your house, and if no terrorists were found I could just then say "well that doesn't prove their were never any terrorists there in the first place" by which time your house is destroyed.

The Bush administration was planning to do something about Iraq well before 9/11 or even before they gained office, infact if you watch Farenheit 9/11 you will see the way in which Rumsfeld came in to government agencies the day after 9/11 and said "Saddam, Iraq - get back to me" and when senior officals said that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, Rumsfeld said that there were not good targets in Afghanistan, lets bomb Iraq instead. Farenheit 9/11 is watchable on Youtube, pretty good quality and the entire thing is uploaded, here's the start and i'd advise a viewing of the entire documentary to anybody; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu40ZR7i_9M

I've mentioned U.S. government examples of deception of the public (lies in frank terms), but I could also go on about the devious 'European project' in its aim to create a European Superstate and then there's the global warming fiaso + numerous others such as swine flu.

You should definitely watch both Zeitgeist movies. Both fantastic. Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist: Addendum.

[Recursion]

You're actually all wrong about the flag, apparently when the flag pole was made they didn't account for the expanding and contracting of the metals during take off and landing and so the pole was damaged in transit, so when they tried to put the flag up, the pole didn't deploy properly and the flag wasn't straightened out, giving the "waving" image we see in pictures.

But yes, I do believe it was real, there's no real reason for anyone to lie.

[N!ck]

I want to believe it's real and have seen the mythbusters episode apparantly busting this myth.

But there's absolutely no way they could have survived the radiation. The shielding they supposedly had would be nowhere near thick enough to properly protect them. It would also have destroyed any the camera film of any pictures taken.

[SirTezza]

I want to believe it's real and have seen the mythbusters episode apparantly busting this myth.

But there's absolutely no way they could have survived the radiation. The shielding they supposedly had would be nowhere near thick enough to properly protect them. It would also have destroyed any the camera film of any pictures taken.

Please know what you are talking about when entering into a debate topic. Radiation would have come from the Van Allen belt, which they passed through in under 2 hours, meaning they did not get a serious hit of radiation. Also, plastic, metal and water are all shields to the radiation, and those things were abundant on the spacecraft. The trajectory they flew on also targeted areas of lesser radiation, meaning they would have hit even less.

The Van Allen belt is simply energetic charged particles that have become trapped by the earth's magnetic field. It isn't a danger if you pass through it quickly enough. Dr James Van Allen has even said that the belt itself would cause no hindrance to manned spaceflight.

[N!ck]

Please know what you are talking about when entering into a debate topic. Radiation would have come from the Van Allen belt, which they passed through in under 2 hours, meaning they did not get a serious hit of radiation. Also, plastic, metal and water are all shields to the radiation, and those things were abundant on the spacecraft. The trajectory they flew on also targeted areas of lesser radiation, meaning they would have hit even less.

The Van Allen belt is simply energetic charged particles that have become trapped by the earth's magnetic field. It isn't a danger if you pass through it quickly enough. Dr James Van Allen has even said that the belt itself would cause no hindrance to manned spaceflight.

Don't worry, I do know what I'm talking about .