Is torture ever acceptable? [ENDS 27/02/2011]

[wiktoria]

No matter what anyone has done I don't think they should be tortured because that's just not right even though they are horrible people I believe it's still wrong. They should be put to death because I don't think you should let anybody suffer no matter what they've done.

[Zuth]

No matter what anyone has done I don't think they should be tortured because that's just not right even though they are horrible people I believe it's still wrong. They should be put to death because I don't think you should let anybody suffer no matter what they've done.

Put to death wont teach them anything, they wont feel no pain what so ever, all it does is end there pain really. If you get put to death its kinda a good thing, you dont have to live life in prision and you dont feel the pain you've caused. Its just not fair, torture is the only way to teach them a lesson.

[Eoin247]

Can't believe i missed all this, i've done a few real life debates on this, debating for both sides of the argument. If torture actualy worked it would be a great tool. Unfortuately whether people know the info or not they will tell you anything just to stop the pain. It has been proven time and time again that this is the case.

I think, if someone has killed many people in the past and put them though a painful death or not, they should be tortured, possiblely even untill death. However if the government needs some vital information they still should torture if peoples lifes are in danger, as the person who knows the "secret" isn't going to be some random guy of the street, it's going to be someone who's in on the "act".

I think it is morally wrong unless the person is KNOWN to be a murderer of several people. Known is the important word. You should need solid proof of the persons guilt AND that they know of people who helped them to commit these awefull crimes. A person should never be tortued if there is a chance they are innocent.

If someone has been proven to commit a serious crime, like terrorism, or mass murder, something along those lines.
If they know the person knows something, and they won't say, torture them.
I think anyone who commits a crime serious enough, should be tortued, just so they feel the pain they've cause someone else.

Another problem with torture, you can never be sure that you're torturing the right guy.

Torture is perfectly acceptable if they are believed to have necessary information which could save lives.

As long as it doesn't make any permanent damage (ie; loss of limbs, loss of sight etc.) I don't see the problem. If people do bad things, bad things will happen to them. I think it's for the best that we torture people for information, so then we can protect the country.

But the only instance it should be carried out is when they have been sentenced for terrorism, treason or something along those lines.

And after we have our information - execute them.

If they have killed someone they don't need to lose limbs, they need to be tortured into telling us how & why they did it, then executed.

As i said, it has been proven that torture doesn't work for the mostpart. People will tell you anything that you want to hear, just to stop the pain. There isn't such a thing as a torture that doesn't cause permanent damage in some way, be it physical or mental.

If there's no need to go to their level, then there's no need to kill people. (that's what I ment ) and at what point did I say someone said it?

There is need to torture them as most prisionors will keep re committing crimes as prison offers a roof over there head, a bed and they get fed 3 times aday, I don't know about you but all that is pretty good for saying you took someones life, they need a better understanding of what they've done and giving them all of the above luxeruses isn't going to help no one. Torture or death Is the only option, I still disagree with death as it's not really a punishment, they won't feel nothing.

Put to death wont teach them anything, they wont feel no pain what so ever, all it does is end there pain really. If you get put to death its kinda a good thing, you dont have to live life in prision and you dont feel the pain you've caused. Its just not fair, torture is the only way to teach them a lesson.

Ok, please don't say things that you don't have a clue are true are not. Most prisoners don't recommit their crimes.

Also if you don't think death is the worst punishment out there, ( In fact aparently you think it's "not really" a punishment at all! ) you haven't learned the true value of human life yet and really shouldn't be debating about life and death topics.

[Eoin247]

I agree we are just as bad as them and it's wrong. It's also wrong what they did to someone else they should share the same pain, I only agree with torture if it's a serous effence, murder, manslaughter ect...

Firstly, you yourself are saying it's wrong and makes us just as bad as the accused. How can you continue to debate your argument after saying this? You can't do both, you must either take this sentance back or change your stance in this debate.

[The Don]

Put to death wont teach them anything, they wont feel no pain what so ever, all it does is end there pain really. If you get put to death its kinda a good thing, you dont have to live life in prision and you dont feel the pain you've caused. Its just not fair, torture is the only way to teach them a lesson.

Erm, sorry, if they are put to death they can't do any more crimes.

Well, they will feel pain, they will die? but it shouldn't be about them feeling pain, it should be making the enviroment a safe place to live.

You saying that they should be tortured makes you as bad as them, afterall you think it's acceptable to torture people when there is no gain (e.g find out information) admittedly they are all wrong but atleast the death penalty or torture to gather information have a gain from it where as you think it's ok just to tortue someone so they learn their lesson?

Also, if you think death is better than prison you are wrong.

Death is the worst penalty imo and it should only be used if there is no way of rehabilitating the criminals to make sure they don't further cause crime.However, tortue just as a punishment is wrong.

[Zuth]

Can't believe i missed all this, i've done a few real life debates on this, debating for both sides of the argument. If torture actualy worked it would be a great tool. Unfortuately whether people know the info or not they will tell you anything just to stop the pain. It has been proven time and time again that this is the case.








Another problem with torture, you can never be sure that you're torturing the right guy.







As i said, it has been proven that torture doesn't work for the mostpart. People will tell you anything that you want to hear, just to stop the pain. There isn't such a thing as a torture that doesn't cause permanent damage in some way, be it physical or mental.





Ok, please don't say things that you don't have a clue are true are not. Most prisoners don't recommit their crimes.

Also if you don't think death is the worst punishment out there, ( In fact aparently you think it's "not really" a punishment at all! ) you haven't learned the true value of human life yet and really shouldn't be debating about life and death topics.

As ive said you should only be able to torture people if you have 100% proof that they committed the crime.


In fact most prisoners do re commit - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle778681.ece

How is death not the worst out there? Theres loads more things that is worse, you dont feel death, its instant in most cases.

Erm, sorry, if they are put to death they can't do any more crimes.

Well, they will feel pain, they will die? but it shouldn't be about them feeling pain, it should be making the enviroment a safe place to live.

You saying that they should be tortured makes you as bad as them, afterall you think it's acceptable to torture people when there is no gain (e.g find out information) admittedly they are all wrong but atleast the death penalty or torture to gather information have a gain from it where as you think it's ok just to tortue someone so they learn their lesson?

Also, if you think death is better than prison you are wrong.

Death is the worst penalty imo and it should only be used if there is no way of rehabilitating the criminals to make sure they don't further cause crime.However, tortue just as a punishment is wrong.

You can stop crimes by putting them in prison for life? Death isnt the worst as ive stated above. ^

[wiktoria]

Put to death wont teach them anything, they wont feel no pain what so ever, all it does is end there pain really. If you get put to death its kinda a good thing, you dont have to live life in prision and you dont feel the pain you've caused. Its just not fair, torture is the only way to teach them a lesson.

Putting them to death will prevent them doing it again.They will probably be tortured to death and you wouldn't know if it taught them a lesson because they would be dead. Even though they are wrong people I still think it's wrong to torture them. If you torture them it's just as bad as them doing the crime and it's just horrible.

[Zuth]

Putting them to death will prevent them doing it again.They will probably be tortured to death and you wouldn't know if it taught them a lesson because they would be dead. Even though they are wrong people I still think it's wrong to torture them. If you torture them it's just as bad as them doing the crime and it's just horrible.

You would suffer more in prison for the rest of your life, death is instant and you wont feel no pain.

[Jordy]

You would suffer more in prison for the rest of your life, death is instant and you wont feel no pain.

So explain why 99% of people on death row, continue to appeal through the court systems and would rather spend lifetime in prison instead.

[Banana Pancakes]

Put to death wont teach them anything, they wont feel no pain what so ever, all it does is end there pain really. If you get put to death its kinda a good thing, you dont have to live life in prision and you dont feel the pain you've caused. Its just not fair, torture is the only way to teach them a lesson.

Death won't teach them anything? That's the stupidest thing ever. Of course it will - they won't be committing any more crimes will they?