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    War, no. Enforced no-fly zone with the co-op of other countries, perhaps but it'll need careful planning.
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    I dont understand why Britain always sticks their nose into other peoples business, much like America. Why dont they just let that country get on with it, the country is already dealing with it, surely you cant make the same mistake twice after what went on in Iraq/Afghanistan? Its just stupid and annoying, not only are they getting involved in something that doesnt affect them what so ever, but other countries will point the finger at Britain and laugh. There is no need to get involved, otherwise it will turn into America, sticking their noise in everybodies business.

    I dont see other countries doing that, they may do it ever so often, but thats in very rare, extreme circumstances, Britain always does it. Why?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Communist View Post
    I dont understand why Britain always sticks their nose into other peoples business, much like America. Why dont they just let that country get on with it, the country is already dealing with it, surely you cant make the same mistake twice after what went on in Iraq/Afghanistan? Its just stupid and annoying, not only are they getting involved in something that doesnt affect them what so ever, but other countries will point the finger at Britain and laugh. There is no need to get involved, otherwise it will turn into America, sticking their noise in everybodies business.

    I dont see other countries doing that, they may do it ever so often, but thats in very rare, extreme circumstances, Britain always does it. Why?
    A fair portion of our oil come from that region, keep that in mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Technologic View Post
    A fair portion of our oil come from that region, keep that in mind
    Yes, but then again there are other ways that you can tackle the oil problem aren't there? Plus, seeming as the country is already dealing with the problem, theres just no need to get involved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    If you feel that Iran is an democracy then so be it. I don't. It's people are totally oppressed Please also don't use silly arguments that if I agree with invasion I should sign up. That is just so crass and naive and comments like that belong in the playground. So are you saying that Tony Blair didn't persuade Gadaffi to give up WMD and let the inspectors in? As you say you find him 'repulsive' and don't give him credit for anything. Luckily lots of other people do.
    A war is only worth it if you yourself are prepared to go, the fact you are so shy to sign up to Afghanistan/would not sign up to serve in Libya shows to me that like our politicians, you expect other peoples children to die for your causes and your wars - I would sign up if there was a Falklans-type war tommorow to defend British territory from an aggressor and if I refrained from signing up I would know in my heart that I didn't really agree with the war.

    I've just shown you poll results, if I said 'no I don't think Labour actually won that much of the vote' you would simply make me out to be mad. The polling shows that he won the election more or less fairly in Iran which is more than can be said for western supported regimes of Egypt, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia and Libya. The same goes for Hamas in Palestine - you may not like the regimes or their stances/political views, but like it or not these governments do appear elected. I simply don't know what to make out concerning Iran, as the words of Ahmadinejad have been twisted by the western world and its media (remember 'wipe Israel off the map'? - he never even said that, so I simply do not know who to believe and after the Blair claims of WMD in Iraq, what reason do I have for believing Blair over Ahmadinejad?).

    As for Antony Blair, no I do not feel that paying the tyrant Gaddafi in terms of cheap arms/foreign aid in order to prevent him acquiring WMD is a 'heroic' stance at all. There is nothing nice or good that shines from Blair, he his a compulsive liar with the blood of many many people on his hands. His famed peace concerning Ireland was also a sham, he gave in to terrorists (as did Thatcher I will add) and now they run the government of Northern Ireland while Blair himself pranced around the world espousing the war on terror and how we will never give in to the terrorists.

    What is so good about Blairs hypocrisy concerning foreign affairs? do you not understand that this is why we are so hated?
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    From what I've read, it sounds to me like they're doing well without our help, taking over cities. In fact, I read that they took out a plane? I also read that they fired on a rescue truck because they thought it was Gaffadi's supporters/hired mercenaries coming to attack them. In other words, it'd possibly be risking lives unneccessarily when they're doing fine on their own!

    Despite that, in a business sense, they seem to be doing well so what if they win and turn on the West for standing by while Gaffadi ruled with his iron fist? We could end up with another Anti-west country and despite what you say about it having no benefits for Britain, I also read somewhere that oil prices have increased by 2% since the fighting broke out, which is surely a drain on the ordinary British citizen. It'd be more beneficial to help out and strike up a friendship and reap the benefits. Doesn't really sound like a friendship when you just take the benefits but... that's business I suppose.

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    Sir John Major (former Prime Minister) now warning against possible mustard gas attacks by Gaddafi, in total agreement with the comment below;

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...s-warning.html

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    jimdigritz - Today 01:50 PM

    What's this I read?

    Despotic mid-east dictator has WMDs and is willing to use them.

    The US & UK feel obliged to enforce a regime change.

    The country happens to have massive oil supplies.

    All sounds very familiar...
    In reality we aren't all that bothered about chemical attacks on innocent people (only when its our enemies/people who fall out of favour), because it wasn't that long ago that Israel used white phosphorus on the people of Gaza which is not to mention the Israeli WMD programme which it denies existing when we all know that it does thanks to photo evidence.

    But shhh about that one!!!
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    "We think we have the right to enforce democracy, when we're weakening ours every day; what hypocrisy!"

    http://www.smartlyrics.com/Song68706...an-lyrics.aspx

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    Pretty much sums up my thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative, View Post
    If we do go on, we'd been in and out within a few months AT THE MOST.
    That's what we said about World War One.
    And Afghanistan.
    And Iraq.

    Just sayin', Libya is a powerful country because we decided it'd be fun to sell most of our arms to them.

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    Not sure why i'm telling you this, but it's always fun to laugh at yourself.
    Usually I'm quite an up to date person, but today when someone said 'what should we do about Gaddafi' I replied, 'Sorry, I've never watched Lord of the Rings'
    feel free to laugh ):
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